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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7876 on: October 21, 2019, 03:49:27 PM »

We don't have any Waiters on the team.  These guys will pull for each other.  The check is the same no matter the minutes

Not the way competitive people think.
And not even true.
Morris for instance is on a 1 year deal and playing for his next contract.  Minutes and numbers this year affect his next contract.
The same for a couple others if they don't get minutes and then we don't pick up their 2nd year option.
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« Reply #7877 on: October 21, 2019, 04:24:58 PM »

4yrs/77mil
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7878 on: October 21, 2019, 04:42:34 PM »

Decisions should not in any way be based on player feelings or popular opinion. If they happen to match up, great. It should be about winning and building a team that can consistently win.

I like that Randle made some defensive plays against the Pels. The focus needs to be on cutting down the plays on which he’s lazy or lost. Bobby needs a better understanding of his job as a defender. He’s much more likely to be out of place or late than to give up on a play.

Taj, Marcus, RJ, and Frank look like they’ll be our most competent and consistent defenders. The nice thing about those four is you can play literally anyone else on the roster with them and they slide naturally into the other four positions. You have 1st option guys in Morris and Barrett, and guys who look to support in Taj and Frank. I expect this more as a choice finishing games before if ever it starts.

Randle, Knox, Mitch, DSJ, Trier, Ellington, and Bobby look ready to take roles around this defensive core. Dotson could get into that group and move ahead of some guys if he gets right and finds his legs.

I think Fizz starts with a rotation something like

Mitch Bobby
Randle Taj
Morris Knox
RJ Trier Ellington
DSJ Frank

Dot and Elfrid as next up and Reggie and Ignas in Street clothes.

On offense, all the bigs need to up their games in doing preparatory work for the guards, both because they can, and because the guards need serious help. The guards need to do more cutting to bend the D and create lanes as well as working to be more available spotting up or flashing. Wayne, Morris, and Trier are best at this with Knox and RJ coming along. This is a particular weakness in Franks game that Fizz needs to address.

I’ll enjoy watching the work this season and right now I hope it will lead to some progress.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7879 on: October 21, 2019, 05:54:46 PM »

Was thinking of take the over 28 for the total games Knicks with this year...any opinions, good or bad?
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« Reply #7880 on: October 21, 2019, 06:06:32 PM »

The range from Vegas, etc. has been about what I was thinking.

26 wins

Hopefully I'm wrong.
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« Reply #7881 on: October 21, 2019, 06:37:53 PM »

Was thinking of take the over 28 for the total games Knicks with this year...any opinions, good or bad?

Take the over. We’ll scrap and we’ll win a few above our weight class.
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« Reply #7882 on: October 21, 2019, 07:57:34 PM »

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« Reply #7883 on: October 21, 2019, 08:08:27 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7884 on: October 21, 2019, 09:31:50 PM »

Morris for instance is on a 1 year deal and playing for his next contract.  Minutes and numbers this year affect his next contract.


Disagree.  He's a known commodity.
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« Reply #7885 on: October 21, 2019, 09:32:29 PM »

And - I don't think he goes anywhere.  Good guy to keep around.
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« Reply #7886 on: October 21, 2019, 09:37:59 PM »

Last preseason game - Wally S surmises that Fiz wanted Randle to hit the winning shot vs his old team

Please....

Not a  big Trier guy - as you know - but the guy with 14 4th Q points should have the rock there.
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« Reply #7887 on: October 21, 2019, 09:51:51 PM »

Last preseason game - Wally S surmises that Fiz wanted Randle to hit the winning shot vs his old team

Please....

Not a  big Trier guy - as you know - but the guy with 14 4th Q points should have the rock there.

Agree. 

Can understand Fizz's thought process in a pre-season game.

In the regular season, one has to believe Trier would have had the rock. 
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« Reply #7888 on: October 21, 2019, 10:07:27 PM »

4yrs/77mil

Turner money

Makes sense
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« Reply #7889 on: October 22, 2019, 12:39:28 AM »

Morris is playing for his last contract, one that he hopes will take him from age 31 - 34.  His numbers this year will even determine whether he can get 4 years guaranteed, or just 3.  he needs a team willing to want him strongly enough the next 2 years (after this) to offer him a 4 year deal.  That's mainly what he's playing for.  Which could be the difference over the next 4 years of $10+M.  If he only gets a 2 or 3 year deal, he loses a lot.  This is the main reason he was amenable to a 1 year deal this year.  To cash in on the most on his last contract, of he hopes 4 years.

But even the starting figure and  the first 2 or 3 years of his next deal partly depends on his production this year.   He could lose $3 - $5M upfront just by not being productive or not starting or not finishing, or not getting enough minutes.  But his main concern is a 3rd and 4th year.

And all this is true whether the Knix keep him or he goes elsewher.
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