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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8355 on: November 10, 2019, 06:38:09 PM »

Mitch out at least tonight and Tuesday

Taj it up!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8356 on: November 10, 2019, 06:46:54 PM »

PS: Fizz's obsession with Ellington, and the utter absence of minutes for Dotson (superior defender) and Trier (more versatile scoring threat) continues to baffle me.  Not that Ellington shouldn't get minutes, but DD and AT are part of our purported youth development posture, and have demonstrated positive attributes and growth when given real minutes.  I suspect that with a healthy Bullock, they will be further relegated to the pine. 


Just catching up

Chip - you do understand practice effort and production factors into minutes, right?
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« Reply #8357 on: November 10, 2019, 07:32:48 PM »

PS: Fizz's obsession with Ellington, and the utter absence of minutes for Dotson (superior defender) and Trier (more versatile scoring threat) continues to baffle me.  Not that Ellington shouldn't get minutes, but DD and AT are part of our purported youth development posture, and have demonstrated positive attributes and growth when given real minutes.  I suspect that with a healthy Bullock, they will be further relegated to the pine. 


Just catching up

Chip - you do understand practice effort and production factors into minutes, right?

I'm sure Chip is duly impressed with Chico's magisterial lesson.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8358 on: November 10, 2019, 08:43:41 PM »

Whoa ya Frankie righted the ship that first half.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8359 on: November 10, 2019, 09:13:29 PM »

Can Frank hold any point guard under 30?
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« Reply #8360 on: November 10, 2019, 09:58:13 PM »

4pts on 4shots for our PG. 
Lillard scored 60 the other night.
Has Frank scored 60 yet?  This year?


Answer: No
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« Reply #8361 on: November 10, 2019, 10:14:24 PM »

lol y'all focused on Frank? He did ok in his 29th start. Def not as nice as v. Mavs.

Nice to see Dot's re-emergence continue. Hopefully those late three's knocked off the last rust flakes. Nice to see Fiz go to a three-guard at one point even though it included the wrong third guard.

Not much else nice. RJ's in a funk. Think those FT's beginning to mess with his head. Got to get a grip on that. Our big group of PF's really kinda stunk.
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« Reply #8362 on: November 10, 2019, 10:21:49 PM »

Knicks president Steve Mills and GM Scott Perry addressing media after blowout loss to Cavs. Mills: "We aren't happy where we are. This is not where we expected to be...(Jim Dolan) still believes in the plan that we put together."

The plan that we put together.

On a napkin.

In 5 minutes.

After we realized that not a single top-tier free agent was even gonna take a call. Nobody with any game would go near this crap.

After we gave up our stud for cap space. ***

Which we then had to fill up with c-listers and pretend nothing happened.

When is somebody getting fired? And I am not talking about Fiz.


****Can't believe anybody would ever crap on zingus for saying "waste my career here? Ya fucking NUTS buddy?"

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« Reply #8363 on: November 10, 2019, 10:58:26 PM »

Les, to answer your question, NO, you can’t fire Dolan.

On the other hand, you people are asking too much from these Knicks. I mean, they already won a game this month. You want another W before December? Well, good luck with that! 🏀
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« Reply #8364 on: November 10, 2019, 11:01:23 PM »

Can Frank hold any point guard under 30?

You mean Luca? He a PG? Sexton? Another PG?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8365 on: November 11, 2019, 04:06:04 AM »

The 2 games I've seen straight through were the blowout losses to weak sisters.  SAC & CLE.

Franc was all right.  But started with two feeble passes both turnovers right out of the gate.  He got tow nice blocks, one on a Garland paint move, the kind of short shot quick G's often get and which are rarely blocked.  Then a 3Q block on a Deli 3. 

The energy wasn't there.  Barrett was quiet.
Down 25 in the 3Q, I started encouraging some 3's to get back in it, and Portis launches one from straight on ... an airball.

Knix had trouble with quick G's -- Sexton, Garland, Clarkson.

I liked Knox's effort and he finished with a Knick high +9.
Despite poor shooting, Knox got 6 FT's.  Fought over screens, and had one of his two blocks trailing his guy on a layup.   
A pair of assists/blocks/steals = effort.
But some mistakes, such as letting a stalled Clarkson fake and pivot around him for an easy layup; and letting his man (Porter) zoom baseline for an easy weakside putback rebound.
I think Knox has upped his aggression some, but still needs to play a little more physical and up his motor.   And keep his focus.

Is it possible Randle had a bad 20 & 16 game?
Dumb fouls, poor turnovers.  But he did fight ...

Starters 2-13 on 3's.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #8366 on: November 11, 2019, 08:31:13 AM »

"Knicks have trouble with quick guards"

Well, yeah, when you just pass him off to the next defender.....

What are we teaching here??????

Dammit.
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« Reply #8367 on: November 11, 2019, 09:09:55 AM »

Mitch, Taj, Franc.  Probably our only three good defenders.

Randle, Portis, Trier get chumped.

Knox is making more effort on D.  Seems he's been told to get over screens and pursue his man.  There was one play where Knox got screened, and absolutely no one stepped in, so his man got an easy dunk.  Clarkson, I think it was.  Believe Taj was out with foul trouble.  Not sure why, but I didn't really see Taj's fouls.

Datsun and PBJ put in the effort but are young.
Speaking of, RJB's returns have diminished.
You can't rely on a 19 year old rook to provide energy, hustle, scoring, ballhandling 35 mins a night. 

Morris puts in the effort but is foul prone.

Not really sure what our team defensive scheme are.
Franc switches, Knox goes over screens, Randle sticks his foot under 3-point shooters.  Not sure if we play different depending if Mitch, Taj or neither is out there.  But you can funnel to Mitch.


Knix are a team of runs.
Need to steady both the O & D to avoid that.
Except for the Celt game, every game has been filled with big runs.  Speaks to cohesion.
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« Reply #8368 on: November 11, 2019, 09:16:40 AM »

Mills needs to honest... him and Perry did a terrible job at assembling this roster, they did a terrible job at hiring a coach, and now they are looking for a scapegoat.
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« Reply #8369 on: November 11, 2019, 09:25:04 AM »

Kam, sorry, I forgot about Garland.

Actually I had a busy Summer and paid little attention to the draft.  I never even saw a Barrett highlight reel, or indeed a picture of Barrett.  The little I read made Hunter & Culver sound like NBA ready 3&D wings.  But in early returns, both are shooting under 37% FG and below 27% on 3's (Cam Reddish much worse than that).

All I know about Garland is he's short ... and born the 21st C.
Did the Knix consider him?
Seems like Barrett became the consensus of a 3-man draft relatively early. 

Morant looks studly.
But if Klint goes to a Memf game I'd encourage him to bring a sign saying:
Get a Brain Morant ... and hold it up for any miscue.


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