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Question: Who should be cut?
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« Reply #16605 on: December 07, 2017, 07:38:25 AM »

Lonzo is here to stay - and I'd bet he stays a Laker.  I stilll say he is the most impressive rookie in the league,

LaVar may go to China - if his business blossoms there.

You impress easily, for a committed contrarian.  

Most impressive rookie?

[Gag me with a spoon]

Jayson Tatum.  

Donovan Mitchell.

Oh, and that Ben Simmons fellow.

So, I mean, bite me genius. 

heh

yeah, I do always forget about Simmons, though he has his warts.

I take Ball #1 if the draft occurred again.
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« Reply #16606 on: December 07, 2017, 08:30:35 AM »

Except for that first half stretch, a very good workman like game. We have to keep rolling against struggling teams.

Beautiful game from Lee. Very nice game from Beasley as well, though nothing we should count on.

Frank looked better in the second half, but he still needs a lot of work. He didn't have a draft prep summer, so maybe he can make a leap to a larger impact next season, but as a back up pg, I think he will figure things out and get more productive incrementally as the season unfolds.

If you limit Gasol, the Grizz don't have much.

Movement didnt seem to be there.

Looking forward to seeing who they hire.

I'd unleash Harrison a bit......
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« Reply #16607 on: December 07, 2017, 12:50:37 PM »

Lonzo is here to stay - and I'd bet he stays a Laker.  I stilll say he is the most impressive rookie in the league,

LaVar may go to China - if his business blossoms there.

You impress easily, for a committed contrarian.  

Most impressive rookie?

[Gag me with a spoon]

Jayson Tatum.  

Donovan Mitchell.

Oh, and that Ben Simmons fellow.

So, I mean, bite me genius. 

heh

yeah, I do always forget about Simmons, though he has his warts.

I take Ball #1 if the draft occurred again.

Congrats, Sparky. 

Mister Ainge begs to differ. 

Go figure. 

Perhaps you might inquire as to whether or not he wants a Mulligan. 

Reckon that's why they make menus.

Cry me a river, why dontcha? 
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« Reply #16608 on: December 07, 2017, 01:03:52 PM »

Kid is doing his best rendition of "Stand By Your Man"

Here's Tammy's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew


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« Reply #16609 on: December 07, 2017, 01:08:24 PM »

and fwiw, for those who like stats to actually compare and contrast with, rather than pull shit out of their ass, here's a NBA rookie list (class of '17, so no Simmons).

basketball ref does its first cut with win share. Tatum is #1, Lonzo is #22 (Simmons would be 3rd)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&draft_year=2017&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&order_by=ws
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« Reply #16610 on: December 07, 2017, 01:14:48 PM »

Ainge has Kyrie.

Tatum makes sense for him now.
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« Reply #16611 on: December 07, 2017, 01:15:57 PM »

In offseason, Knicks needed a 1 and a 3 - assuming Melo to be gone.

And you are taking Tatum in that case?

That's fine

Yes, we differ.
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« Reply #16612 on: December 07, 2017, 01:19:57 PM »

Ainge has Kyrie.

Tatum makes sense for him now.

Ainge did not have Irving when he traded the #1 for the #3 and a pick to get the guy he wanted.

have you seen Tatum play, either at Duke or with the Celts?

it would probably be helpful to see him play, before passing judgement.

But absent that, I gave you some stats.

And your answer begs the question I asked, why you still prefer Ball?
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« Reply #16613 on: December 07, 2017, 01:22:59 PM »

Ainge has Kyrie.

Tatum makes sense for him now.

Ainge did not have Irving when he traded the #1 for the #3 and a pick to get the guy he wanted.







I wasnt talking to you, dingledick.

You POISON the forum.

Be gone already.
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« Reply #16614 on: December 07, 2017, 01:25:56 PM »

Ainge has Kyrie.

Tatum makes sense for him now.

Ainge did not have Irving when he traded the #1 for the #3 and a pick to get the guy he wanted.







I wasnt talking to you, dingledick.

You POISON the forum.

Be gone already.

Chill, dude. 
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« Reply #16615 on: December 07, 2017, 01:32:57 PM »

Ainge has Kyrie.

Tatum makes sense for him now.

Ainge did not have Irving when he traded the #1 for the #3 and a pick to get the guy he wanted.







I wasnt talking to you, dingledick.

You POISON the forum.

Be gone already.

Koach I asked you to explain your opinion.

That you couldn't and are intimidated by me asking you to support your opinion in a hoops forum is hysterical.

Kid you are too fucking dumb to comprehend this, but I and a few others are the antidote to your stupidity.

You continually dumb this forum down and poison it just about every fucking day.

 
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« Reply #16616 on: December 07, 2017, 01:38:29 PM »

DET on a 4 game skid with GS & BOS up next

They have too many possession where the ball winds up in StanJohn's hands with under 5 secs.  Or movement and passes that lead to no advantage.  I'd guess DET & OKC are among the league leaders in shots with under 6 on the shot clock.

I really like StanJohn's feel for the game.  Good D, good rotations, moves the ball well, good ball fakes and drives.  Just can't shoot and has lost confidence in his shot.  Tobias, RegJax and Drummond play in spurts.
I've kind of soured on RegJax.  Just seems to coast a fair amount, does nothing away from the ball, can be inattentive on D (30 secs left in a close game and he let Bledsoe blow past him to the rim).  I like Bledsoe more, though he has an easier time since he has The Greek handling the ball a good deal.  Middleton has been playing well lately.

DET bench is Ish plus.  Tolliver takes some of the worst looking shots. 
I keep being impressed by Brogdan.  Guy makes great reverse layups, but does everything nicely.  Smart player.  MIL will be better when Ante-Greek doesn't try to do too much and get out of control.  Gotta settle down and play smart.  Sometime she lets the other team back in, by turnovers and such.
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« Reply #16617 on: December 07, 2017, 05:31:24 PM »

Brooklyn sends Booker to Philly for Okafor and Sauce. It fits the the long term plan of the Nyets and cements Philly in the top 8 EC teams this year.
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« Reply #16618 on: December 07, 2017, 05:31:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/Jimmerosity/status/938855855142793217

Update on the world's worst player
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« Reply #16619 on: December 07, 2017, 05:32:44 PM »

Brooklyn sends Booker to Philly for Okafor and Sauce. It fits the the long term plan of the Nyets and cements Philly in the top 8 EC teams this year.

Nets are wicked smaht

Now can they be a little luckier?
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