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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9180 on: December 07, 2019, 03:06:27 PM »

---Meet Mike Miller, Interim Coach of the New York Knicks---

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissheridan/2019/12/07/meet-mike-miller-interim-coach-of-the-new-york-knicks/#77401faa6d64

Seems like a good choice considering the lack of talent present.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9181 on: December 07, 2019, 03:32:55 PM »

Dolan's deep pockets are part of the problem.
Knix throw money at everything, looking for shortcuts, instead of patiently building an organization and chemistry.   For both front office and roster.  It's always about bringing in a flashy marketable name.

Simply, hands-off Dolan isn't enough if you put idiots in charge.
(Phil wasn't an idiot, just a dinosaur looking to cash in on Dolanbucks)

Completely agree - but I'd rather have a deep pocketed owner than a cheap one (see NY Mets)...

But here's the real problem, Mills & Perry obviously sold Dolan on Plan B and when the shit went south they hung Fizzy out to dry to save their asses. A guy that they hand-picked! Not that the idiot didn't deserve it, but this team lacks talent at almost every position and that's on Mills/Perry.

We are rebuilding, we are young, we were expected to be terrible.

Mike Miller is now in a very unenviable position of having to save Mills & Perry with a shit roster. Working for these rats has to be unsettling knowing Mills will shove a dagger up your ass at any point. Pretty sure he would be hailed as a hero across the NBA if he said "thanks, but no thanks" and walked away.

Dolan isn't the problem and the FO certainly bears some responsibility for the roster, it was on Fiz to make it work.

Nor is there a lack of talent.  There was a lack of coaching vision that compounded the lack of game time chemistry.

As Kam points out there's a talented set of team pieces on the roster.

Where Perry might assume some blame, its in advocating for Randall, DSJ, and say Payton to succeed when better options exist.

Miller will right this ship.  Allen played very well for him in G-League and Miller seems to have an affinity for younger players.

What's needed is some ruthless pruning of the roster and, yet again, taking some risks in acquiring less than perfect players.





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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9182 on: December 07, 2019, 03:38:13 PM »

Mills seems to be a yes man teflon brown nose with no work ethic. Does not like chasing FAs, does not like research, can always blame things on coach or GM.
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Re: Hey Coach Miller
« Reply #9183 on: December 07, 2019, 03:49:49 PM »

This is your one big chance to change things up.  One free pass so go for it.


Starters need to be:

Mitch
Morris
RJ
Dotson
Frank


Plus, it's the one thing me n' Kam agree on 100%. Go for it Mikey!

#Go4ItMikey
« Last Edit: December 07, 2019, 03:51:35 PM by lesterdog »
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Re: Hey Coach Miller
« Reply #9184 on: December 07, 2019, 04:31:30 PM »

Starters need to be:

Mitch
Morris
RJ
Dotson
Frank
Plus, it's the one thing me n' Kam agree on 100%. Go for it Mikey!

I like that as a starting lineup.
Even though I'm not sure it's better than the 2nd unit.
And you're kidding yourself Kam & FWK if you think that lineup is average or better.  Against most teams, we'd be outplayed at 4 positions and the other team would have the best player on the court.

Also, it's 4 yute with limited experience surrounded by a tough vet who iso's.  At least a bunch of defenders.  Questionable shooting though.
I also want Knox to get 20+ mins.
Taj, Randle and Smith together make sense to me.

Is Morris are only legit starter?


Oh yeah ... Knicks’ president Steve Mills reportedly on hot seat, too
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Re: Hey Coach Miller
« Reply #9185 on: December 07, 2019, 04:39:28 PM »

Starters need to be:

Mitch
Morris
RJ
Dotson
Frank
Plus, it's the one thing me n' Kam agree on 100%. Go for it Mikey!

I like that as a starting lineup.
Even though I'm not sure it's better than the 2nd unit.
And you're kidding yourself Kam & FWK if you think that lineup is average or better.  Against most teams, we'd be outplayed at 4 positions and the other team would have the best player on the court.

Also, it's 4 yute with limited experience surrounded by a tough vet who iso's.  At least a bunch of defenders.  Questionable shooting though.
I also want Knox to get 20+ mins.
Taj, Randle and Smith together make sense to me.

Is Morris are only legit starter?


Oh yeah ... Knicks’ president Steve Mills reportedly on hot seat, too

Randle, Smith and Knox should be trade bait.

I never claimed the lineup was average or better.  I do think there are lineups that can win games with just the personnel we have.  However, after seeing and smelling how badly some of these guys are, its time to cut bait.

Frankie and RJ get better by the day as does Dotson. Payton first off the bench then Allen. Trier after Dotson and RJ.

Morris needs to be the starting SF with Iggy backing him. Trade Knox.

Randle just needs to go.  Gibson/Portis at PF.

Mitchell then Wooten at C.

They will lose some and win some.  But they will play with heart.
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Re: Hey Coach Miller
« Reply #9186 on: December 07, 2019, 05:56:59 PM »

Starters need to be:

Mitch
Morris
RJ
Dotson
Frank
Plus, it's the one thing me n' Kam agree on 100%. Go for it Mikey!

I like that as a starting lineup.
Even though I'm not sure it's better than the 2nd unit.
And you're kidding yourself Kam & FWK if you think that lineup is average or better.  Against most teams, we'd be outplayed at 4 positions and the other team would have the best player on the court.


Bo - average or better?  Why should that be the standard for if a change is worthwhile when the current unit is worst in the league?

It sets the orgs priorities in order.  Youth development (not just lip service to).  You play all your recent picks.  You definitely give Knox his 20 minutes to do his rim running without Randle clogging up the paint. You see if you want to extend Frank's rookie deal.  You see if Randle can find himself as a 6th man Deluxe.

If you're Mike Miller why not make your mark on this team.

If you keep things the same then nothing will change.

Miller is basically a .500 coach in G league.
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Re: Hey Coach Miller
« Reply #9187 on: December 07, 2019, 06:09:37 PM »

Starters need to be:

Mitch
Morris
RJ
Dotson
Frank
Plus, it's the one thing me n' Kam agree on 100%. Go for it Mikey!

I like that as a starting lineup.
Even though I'm not sure it's better than the 2nd unit.
And you're kidding yourself Kam & FWK if you think that lineup is average or better.  Against most teams, we'd be outplayed at 4 positions and the other team would have the best player on the court.


Bo - average or better?  Why should that be the standard for if a change is worthwhile when the current unit is worst in the league?

It sets the orgs priorities in order.  Youth development (not just lip service to).  You play all your recent picks.  You definitely give Knox his 20 minutes to do his rim running without Randle clogging up the paint. You see if you want to extend Frank's rookie deal.  You see if Randle can find himself as a 6th man Deluxe.

If you're Mike Miller why not make your mark on this team.

If you keep things the same then nothing will change.

Miller is basically a .500 coach in G league.

.500

Sigh!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9188 on: December 07, 2019, 07:50:30 PM »

Wow.
Mills and Perry are right.
Talented team we have
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9189 on: December 07, 2019, 08:38:15 PM »

I think its a nod to the former coach that the lineup didnt change. 

In time, we will see.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9190 on: December 07, 2019, 08:42:31 PM »

Randle, Smith and Knox should be trade bait.

Used to say with the Mets, "if you trade deGrom then you will be trying to SIGN a deGrom"

Knicks will be looking for a 20 point workhorse should Randle leave.  He seems to be a good mate.  KEEP.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9191 on: December 07, 2019, 08:52:05 PM »

Noticeable in first half stats - Gibson never gets back in - 6 minutes - +2

Payton a +4, 5 assists 0 turnovers

Keep an eye on point guard slot and the question, "do we really need to play 3 guys?".
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9192 on: December 07, 2019, 08:54:38 PM »

Talent to win or compete every night? I just don't see it. Give me some of that crack you guys are smoking.

Stats don't lie either. Neither does the record.

Last in FG%, Points Scored and Assists.

This team is not good.

Shame on Mills & Perry.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-raptors-ujiri-would-be-intrigued-by-challenge-of-fixing-knicks-164803538.html
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9193 on: December 07, 2019, 09:08:44 PM »

Smith showing glimmers

Knicks with just 9 turnovers
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« Reply #9194 on: December 07, 2019, 09:38:09 PM »

Payton making a case for the starting job.
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