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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9555 on: December 20, 2019, 10:35:51 PM »

Well, I prefer Frankie and Payton rather than Teague, not because I am diminishing Teague's value but the Frankie/Elfrid duo is playing very, very well - why mess with that?


Are we saying this is our duo for next season?

Assuming a healthy trajectory I would say yes.

Where I would offer a qualification is if CP3 were acquired in a trade in which case CP3's career could be extended by playing fewer but critical minutes along side our developing duo.

I like what I'm seeing from these two and their combined production is as good or better than most of the longer-in-tooth PGs available in trade.  CP3 being a notable exception.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9556 on: December 20, 2019, 10:54:35 PM »

PPS: Teague as a rumor.  Is a rumor.  Don't see why Minny would offload him when they are trying to solidify their culture and make the playoffs. Was addressing the notions, floated here, that the Knicks dump Smith, instead of nurturing him.  Too soon to proclaim him a bust.  TOO FUCKING SOON.  


OK, got it.



Well, I prefer Frankie and Payton rather than Teague, not because I am diminishing Teague's value but the Frankie/Elfrid duo is playing very, very well - why mess with that?

Its never too soon to cut bait on DSJ - that train left the station a while ago.

But we should take back Bazemore?

Reasoning is too sophisticated for me. 

A smallish 6'4" 30-year old SF/SG, when we already have RJ and Bullock, not to mention Knox and Iggy.

A severely undersized PF who is a .162% from trey. 

A) I prefer my redundancy to yours. 

B) Subtraction through MORE SUBTRACTION. 

C) And you toss in Portis in exchange for a dwarf Stretch 4 who 'caint stretch. 

Well, now...

We give up talent and get back nothing.
chip,

Re: Bazemore and a youngin. 

Bazemore is having a down year - true.  But he's the kind of guy we may need to guide Barrett, Knox, and a few others.  Hahn a while back suggested signing Crawford to simply tutor Barrett and Trier.

I feel like he could become a poor man's Iguadala for us.

And getting back a former first round youth is just fine with me.

I'm not sensing any chemistry with Portis on the floor - mostly empty stats that he gives back on the defensive end.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9557 on: December 21, 2019, 12:59:42 AM »

Meanwhile ... Porzingis
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« Reply #9558 on: December 21, 2019, 01:59:34 AM »

Meanwhile ... Porzingis

Porzingis had 18 rebounds.

... So did Enes Kanter.

PS. Kam(s)ter, Enes loves u 2 🌹❤️. He’s just playing for a good team, as against trying to play for Phony Phizz.

PPS. Les, u my doggie 🐶
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9559 on: December 21, 2019, 02:11:55 AM »

Terrific Road W for Mavs with Luka out.
Tim's bipolar 3-Pt shooting was in the manic phase.

Carlisle gets the most out of his guys.
Makes a patchwork bench work.
Scurry 1.0, Delon and Boban are journeymen; Kleber plucked from Germany; Brunson a 2nd rounder; a 29 year old Australian named Broekhoff ... Courtly went from starting to DNP's.
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« Reply #9560 on: December 21, 2019, 02:19:12 AM »

Terrific Road W for Mavs with Lukca out.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9561 on: December 21, 2019, 02:34:53 AM »

ESPN headline:
Heat ease past Knicks, lead wire-to-wire in 129-114 win
Isn't this a wrong usage?  To ease past means to get by slowly, carefully, gently.  Akin to squeezing or slipping by.  Just barely.  Not to get by easily.  I think they're mixing up easily with easing.

Heat easily handled the Execrable Knix ...

MIA 34 Assists on 43 FGM.

Good to see Myers Leonard playing well.  Always liked him.  Voted him Most in Need of a Change of Scenery 2 or 3 years running.

Bobby Mr. Consistency" Portis.
Should try to showcase him.  Get him a few more big games then ship him out.

I think there should be a series of negative awards:
Most Inconsistent
Least Valuable Player
Worst Starter
Least Clutch
Most Likely to Turn the Ball Over
Most Likely to Fall Down
Worst Passer
Biggest Ball Hog
Irrational Confidence Award
Most Injury Prone
Most Foul Prone
etc.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9562 on: December 21, 2019, 08:45:56 AM »

34/30/73  shooting for THJ   -  8-5 record     Mavs with Hardaway coming off bench


46/43/85     ............        11-4 record     with THJ starting


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Trenchant Analysis
« Reply #9563 on: December 21, 2019, 10:08:53 AM »

Bobby "Mr. Consistency" Portis.

Should try to showcase him.  Get him a few more big games then ship him out.


25 Minutes [+11]

12-17 FG

4-7 Trey

2-2 FT

8 Rebounds

2 Assists

3 Steals

ZERO Turnovers

And does this against a top tier team which for the most part was completely bitch slapping our Knucks. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9564 on: December 21, 2019, 10:13:08 AM »

I was bullish on Portis - and still am.

The problem is what salary he commands.

Likely a 1 year Knick - and sure - if someone wants him......

Tough guy to deal, price and potential effect on a contender considered.  For a big ticket - $$$, sure.

Likely stays - and is a one and done as he looks to start somewhere.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9565 on: December 21, 2019, 10:21:54 AM »

A bit puzzling why Washington moved away from Portis, though their $$ problems were apparent.

Went with bigs Bryant, Bertans, Wagner and Mahinmi
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« Reply #9566 on: December 21, 2019, 10:57:24 AM »

Bobby "Mr. Consistency" Portis.

Should try to showcase him.  Get him a few more big games then ship him out.


25 Minutes [+11]

12-17 FG

4-7 Trey

2-2 FT

8 Rebounds

2 Assists

3 Steals

ZERO Turnovers

And does this against a top tier team which for the most part was completely bitch slapping our Knucks. 



I think the problem Portis has is the problem we all have, Randle.

Move Randle.  Let Portis assume PF duties and acquire a no-nonsense Center back-up
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9567 on: December 21, 2019, 11:08:24 AM »

KNICKS ADD ANDREW WIGGINS

- just an example

With Barrett and next year's #1 - call it VERNON CAREY - a BASE. 
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« Reply #9568 on: December 21, 2019, 12:20:25 PM »

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Let's say Knick management does the simple easy thing. When faced with a vacancy, hires the best coach available, one who conveniently wants to come to the city.

Budenholzer.

Then does the simple natural no-brainer thing. Try to win games. I reckon we would have finished around 33-49 last year. And looked pretty decent. Like a team on the upswing. With some potential and a good vibe. Improving. Like the Nets under Kenny. With an eager unicorn waiting in the wings.

I think this situation would have gotten us sit-down or two. I think right now our lineup would look like this.

Mitch.
Porzingis.
Butler.
Hardaway.
Morant.

I think we would be around 19-11, or even better, happy as pigs in shit, and celebrating the start of the New Year with the most exciting Knick team in two decades, and eyes firmly pointed heavensward.

There's plenty of variation possible. Maybe Hardaway's not and there's a second A-lister in the lineup. Kemba? I think we easily moved THJ if Budenholzer was coaching him and we were playing to win, but you could have attached a pick to get rid off him if you needed to sign that second A-lister, no big deal. And maybe it's Zion, not Morant, or maybe Hachimura, or Herro, or even still RJ.  Not materially different.

Nothing far fetched about the above. Or variations on the above. No brainer stuff. It's where we would be with the most base-level competency in basketball management.

When that AXE gonna fall?

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9569 on: December 21, 2019, 12:25:49 PM »

We WEREN'T TRADING PORZINGIS if only we had hired Budenhoser.

Nope - nothing far-fetched about that.
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