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Re: There's a Dark Cloud in every silver lining
« Reply #9705 on: December 27, 2019, 12:05:30 PM »

Barrett-Knox-Ntilikina combined for just 12 pts on 4 for 18 shot-making.

That WOULD be a dark cloud. 

If...

We lost. 

But we didn't. 

Let's see how the team responds to the Wizards on Saturday.  If they have a similar focus.

It's STILL  a fucking cloud.  Three fourths of our youth movement cant get consistent traction.

Only the rookie gets a pass here.

Let's stop taliking about this "base" until the consistency arrives.

(and I know, Chip - you favor the vets, so dont take this personally)

I favor the vets?

News to me. 

Was flabbergasted at all the minutes Fiz lavished on Ellington when Dotson was ready willing and able. 

And you are regularly amused by the traction I would proffer to Trier. 

I like our puppies, and am taken aback by how quickly many of the Trader Vics on this forum would ship them out of town for a bag of magic beans. 

It is often easy to forget how YOUNG our SEVEN puppies are. 

And GREEN. 

RJ [19]
Ziggy [20]
Knox [20]
Robinson [21]
Ntilikina [21]
DJ [22]
Trier [23]

And how young many of our vets are

Portis [24]
Randle [25]
Payton [25]
Dotson [25]
Allen [26]

That's TWELVE players under 26. 

As for our vets

Bullock [28]
Morris [30]
Ellington [32]
Gibson [34]

Of the "vets" I'm pulling for, mainly Morris. 

Inclined to pull for Bullock, because we need someone coming off the pine, besides Dotson, who can stroke AND defend. 

Baby Steps

RJ last night?

2-10.  Troubling. 

4 defensive rebounds, 3 offensive rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and a very adult give up the body offensive foul he drew, for a +20.   He PLAYED DEFENSE.  Knox and Frank have been too.  In lieu of hitting shots, DEFENSE WINS GAMES IN THIS MAN'S LEAGUE. 

Payton, 13-7-4-1 and only 1 turnover in 32 minutes for a +25.  And didn't allow Dinwiddie to run wild.  DEFENSE. 

You may be right about Randle finding his comfort level under Coach Miller.  Fizz presumed him to be a point forward, and while a willing and able passer, was a turnover festival trying to shoehorn his game into being a facilitator.  Was gratifying to see him working and dominating in the midrange, and while it troubles me to see him hoisting so many threes, he was 5-9 last night, so, I mean, yeah sure. 

Is it worth mentioning to the assembled Trader Vics, that Julius just turned 25 at the end of November.  He is also a puppy, and just finding his rhythm as the #1/#2 option along with Morris. 

Who will emerge as the #3 option.  God knows, we could use some consistent shooting. 

But for one night, it was fun to see our Knucks grinding on defense, and holding the playoff bound 16-13 (now 16-14) Nyets to a collective 21-78. 

Let's see if Coach Miller, Julius, Marcus and Elfrid can do it two games in a row. 

PS: Agree with the idea of letting Dennis tune up in Westchester.  Not sure how he would view that.  Not a demotion, but a search for RHYTHM. 
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Re: There's a dark cloud up Kam's ass...
« Reply #9706 on: December 27, 2019, 01:07:21 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9707 on: December 27, 2019, 01:09:41 PM »

I’d take Morris for 3 years 60 million with a team option for year 4.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9708 on: December 27, 2019, 01:15:47 PM »

I’d take Morris for 3 years 60 million with a team option for year 4.

4yrs/85mil with the first 3 yrs and $63mil fully guaranteed.  Final year is a team option.
He will be as old as Taj is now and Taj just got his self paid again.  Taj still useful as mentor.
As Morris will be.

I don't know who we are bidding against for Morris.  Is there a team that will offer more guaranteed money than 63?
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Re: There's a dark cloud up Kam's ass...
« Reply #9709 on: December 27, 2019, 01:22:03 PM »


Who gives a fuck.

Because Barrett, Knox, and Ntilikina, or BKN if you prefer, are our last three lottery selections and putative youth movement.  It would be nice to see more fruit bearing games.  OF course they're young/inexperienced but look around at most of the NBA.  Our young guys need to show and prove on a consistent basis or they'll be someone else's young veteran on their next deal.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9710 on: December 27, 2019, 02:49:17 PM »

4yrs/85mil with the first 3 yrs and $63mil fully guaranteed.  Final year is a team option.

I don't know who we are bidding against for Morris.  Is there a team that will offer more guaranteed money than 63?

A$22M team option when he's 34 isn't that appealing, but yeah that could happen.  There are plenty of team's that could use Morris.  UTA, DEN, POR.  Not sure if any of those will have free FA money.  POR has a huge payroll, but Whiteside is coming off the books.  But also teams like DET, MIN etc could use Morris' toughness and outside shooting.  I don't know who the FA's are next Summer, but Morris should have suitors.  A sign and trade could also open up more teams.
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« Reply #9711 on: December 27, 2019, 03:46:40 PM »

4yrs/85mil with the first 3 yrs and $63mil fully guaranteed.  Final year is a team option.

I don't know who we are bidding against for Morris.  Is there a team that will offer more guaranteed money than 63?

A$22M team option when he's 34 isn't that appealing, but yeah that could happen.  There are plenty of team's that could use Morris.  UTA, DEN, POR.  Not sure if any of those will have free FA money.  POR has a huge payroll, but Whiteside is coming off the books.  But also teams like DET, MIN etc could use Morris' toughness and outside shooting.  I don't know who the FA's are next Summer, but Morris should have suitors.  A sign and trade could also open up more teams.

Some of these listed are out of date, with players who have since re-upped.

But, slim pickings in any event. 

Notable unrestricted 2020 free agents:

Kyle Lowry
DeMarcus Cousins
Montrezl Harrell
Paul Millsap
Hassan Whiteside
Marc Gasol
Serge Ibaka
Danilo Gallinari
Fred VanVleet
Eric Gordon
Goran Dragic
Tristan Thompson

Notable restricted 2020 free agents:

Jaylen Brown
Pascal Siakam
Brandon Ingram
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Buddy Hield
Domantas Sabonis
Cedi Osman
Caris LeVert

Notable players who can opt out of their deals to become free agents:


Anthony Davis
Gordon Hayward
DeMar DeRozan
Andre Drummond
Mike Conley
Otto Porter Jr.
Tim Hardaway Jr.
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« Reply #9712 on: December 27, 2019, 03:49:39 PM »

Mike Vorkunov: Dennis Smith Jr. (strained left oblique) and Reggie Bullock are out for tomorrow’s Knicks-Wizards game, team announces. Mitchell Robinson and Wayne Ellington are questionable. Marcus Morris is off the injury report. – via Twitter MikeVorkunov

The oblique injury Smith is dealing with apparently the same injury which kept Aaron Judge out for two + plus months. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9713 on: December 27, 2019, 04:01:30 PM »

Van Vleet is the interesting guy in the fa group.  Other than that I like our guys, the draft and trades for 20-21
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Re: Dennis Is Snake Bit
« Reply #9714 on: December 27, 2019, 04:54:09 PM »


The oblique injury Smith is dealing with apparently the same injury which kept Aaron Judge out for two + plus months.

That's a shame.  Now we need another right-handed batter.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9715 on: December 27, 2019, 06:45:28 PM »

Celt's budding monsters, the JnJ boys, put up a set of 30s (first time I think) in matinee win over Cavs.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9716 on: December 27, 2019, 07:45:33 PM »

Van Vleet is the interesting guy in the fa group.  Other than that I like our guys, the draft and trades for 20-21

Yes, Van Vleet is very interesting. 

But really, are the Raptors going to let him walk?

I think NOT. 

Free agency is kind of a wank.  The home team has all the advantages. 

Everything else is a charade, like Anthony Davis' agent suggesting he might consider the Knicks in the summer of 2020. 

Uh huh. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9717 on: December 27, 2019, 07:53:10 PM »

Celt's budding monsters, the JnJ boys, put up a set of 30s (first time I think) in matinee win over Cavs.

Love as well

Celts didn't cover
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9718 on: December 27, 2019, 07:55:25 PM »

Fultz filling it vs Sixers

Excellent 21 year old talent
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9719 on: December 27, 2019, 08:18:13 PM »

Celt's budding monsters, the JnJ boys, put up a set of 30s (first time I think) in matinee win over Cavs.

Love as well

Celts didn't cover

Cover?

irrelvant.

The Celts could have won by 25+.

I think 13 guys had double-digit minutes.

With a few more minutes JnJ could have gone for 40-40

those fellas are going to be fun to watch for the next decade.
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