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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Zach Randolph officially retires, ending 17-year career: ‘I gave this game my all’

[FWK00]

-snip-

I wonder how this season would have looked with Rubio on the team.

Fizdale would have tried to turn him into a Point Forward.

[facilitatorn]

Smith and Ellington to the Kings for Dedmon. His 3rd year is only guaranteed for about 100k. He’s only getting 7 mil more than Smith next year.

[kidcarter8]

Knix need shooters.
Ellington is a decent vet, but a journeyman.  Useful guy to have around, but also could be used to sweeten a deal.  I doubt we could get a 2nd rounder for him, though 2nd rounders for playoff teams, those below the 45 pick are considered worth little.

Knix really need a starting caliber PG.
Every coach will fail without one.
Maybe Elf can cover.
INDy got away with Collison and ORL with DJ Auggie.
And those are backup PG's like Elf who toughened up a bit and took advantage of starting ops.

I wonder how this season would have looked with Rubio on the team.

Not sure why you would even ask

[kidcarter8]

Smith and Ellington to the Kings for Dedmon. His 3rd year is only guaranteed for about 100k. He’s only getting 7 mil more than Smith next year.

We don't play with that type center

[facilitatorn]

We don’t have that type of center.

[kidcarter8]

And don't want one...

Vernon Carey is what we are looking for

[bodiddley]

When we had KZ, we had a focus and a plan forward.

Now we just have a roster full of bodies.
Mismatched and no clear path forward.

I'd decide on Randle or Morris.
I'd decide on Franc or Jr. Smith  Dot or Trier.
I'd add a 3-point shooter.
Try to find 2-way players.
And get a starting PG so we can function  and evaluate and develop our yute properly.

We need a direction, not just patchwork GMing.

[FWK00]

And don't want one...

Vernon Carey is what we are looking for

Trade for Dedmon is actually a good one.  Gibson is playing well but is nothing special.  If Dedmon could add value there then its a trade worth making.  I think the Knicks do need a center to complement MR - more of an enforcer like GS and Boston employ.  Someone to just get in there and not play nice.

Vernon Carey?  Sure.  Keep cherry=picking the best college players that we may or may never have an opportunity to draft.  Because yes, we need them all but only the ones that are a sure thing after the draft.

[kidcarter8]

25-11-8 for the ageless CP3

A master at deferring til the game is in the balance. 

[kidcarter8]

When we had KZ, we had a focus and a plan forward.

Now we just have a roster full of bodies.
Mismatched and no clear path forward.

Nah, man.

You all wanted the short contracts.  Beauty being we could decide who to try to keep after judging their play and character

[kidcarter8]

And don't want one...

Vernon Carey is what we are looking for

Vernon Carey?  Sure.  Keep cherry=picking the best college players that we may or may never have an opportunity to draft.  Because yes, we need them all but only the ones that are a sure thing after the draft.

Uh... what?

[lesterluv]

We have no plan whatsover. Which sucks. Of course, it's better than a bad plan — of which we've had a few.

Bo, I didn't realize that I Am Peace Star (our artist formerly known as Starbury) had entered yet another new & wonderful phase of his career in China:

https://twitter.com/StarburyMarbury/status/1193910969702875136

Superb!

[Kam]

1. M. Morris Sr., .E. Payton, .J. Randle, .B. Portis, .R. Barrett  ---->35 net  in 37 minutes  135off/100def rating

2. B. Portis, .D. Smith Jr., .D. Dotson, .K. Knox II, .M. Robinson -->3.5 net in 39 minutes  98.9off/95.3def

3. M. Morris Sr., .E. Payton, .J. Randle, .M. Robinson, .R. Barrett -> -1.4 net in 102 minutes 100off/101.4def
(this is our 2nd most used linueup by minutes played together)


Which lineup has played more than 102 minutes this year? 
Only this one:

T. Gibson, .M. Morris Sr., .J. Randle, .F. Ntilikina, .R. Barrett  - -6.6 net in 228 minutes played  and a 104.6off/111.2 defensive rating.  This explains why we routinely give up 111+ ppg.

Now if you substitute Elf for Frank as Miller just did you get:
T. Gibson, .M. Morris Sr., .E. Payton, .J. Randle, .R. Barrett - -16 net in 43 minutes

The reason being is this unit cannot score at all (83.7off) .  But it is very good defensively (100def).
So Elf in for Frank and you're 11 pts better defensively with the starters.  But scoring less thus far.

Minimum cut-off 24 minutes played

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612752&sort=MIN&dir=1&CF=MIN*GE*24

The interesting player is Portis appearing in our only 2 positive lineups. 
The caveat being these two are our 6th and 7th most used lineups respectively.

Perhaps starting Bobby for a few games is worth a looksee. BUT be careful who you start with him.  He is also part of our WORST unit

This group is our 4th most used lineup and it sucks;
M. Morris Sr., .J. Randle, .B. Portis, .F. Ntilikina, .R. Barrett in 59 minutes is -32.1 net  81.6off/113.7def

Portis and Payton or DSJ are positive lineups.  Portis and Frank doesn't work together. 

[facilitatorn]

We went with big strong guys who can move their feet and what do you know, with sane coaching, they can play good team defense even when combined with our lanky pups.

Don’t think we need to add a guard or a wing, at least not until we see what we have in Bullock.

We definitely don’t need to add a PF since that is the heart and meat of this team.

We need another rim protector. It would be a bonus if that guy had a means to score.

We are not winning a chip this year and are unlikely to reach the playoffs so win totals are mostly irrelevant except as they hurt our draft position. Where they are relevant is league wide respect and attractiveness to free agents.

If we play .500 ball or better the rest of the way and exceed my 32 win prediction by a few games, that might be the ideal outcome heading into next summer. I don’t think this is an outcome that’s beyond our reach.

It means under Miller we’re a playoff trajectory team that has a ton of flexibility and is adding a lotto pick.

Elfrid, Marcus, and Julius play just fine together and the biggest problem with them is keeping Marcus Morris past this year.

We are building. It’s not the same as being fully built. After so many years of crumbs it’s no surprise people won’t recognize half a loaf. Half a loaf is what we have and that’s a good thing.