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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #690 on: September 19, 2018, 10:32:14 PM »

Russell will cost Wolves more than Bradley next year
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chipstern

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« Reply #691 on: September 19, 2018, 10:37:58 PM »

This is how the NBA differs from MLB

You can increase your odds of getting a free agent under NBA rules.

If you like this player you should be happy if Scott Perry makes his move now.

a)  we will be better

b)  we will stay better, maybe much much better and soon.

If Perry and Mills take a shot and it fails, so be it.

(likely Ntilikina is a good fit for them)

Lee, Dotson, Ntilikina...........

Straight up?

No #1?

Numbers work. 

HATE TO GIVE UP ON FRANK, but got to give to get, and he could be an ideal long term piece for Thibs, who loves him some D. 

Pieces that would contribute right away.  And long term. 

Hard to see Thibs doing it without a #1. 

Hard to see Perry giving them FRANK & A #1. 

Hard to see Perry giving them Frank.  PERIOD. 

But straight up, your fantasy?  Sure thing. 

Only thing, this presupposed Knox at PF and Butler at SF and Timmy at SG. 

I believe the Knicks project Knox as a SF.  PF?  Further down the road.  Not strong enough yet. 

And KP as a PF.  Center further down the road.  Not strong enough yet.  Plus there is this Kanter fellow. 

Still...

Kanter-Knox-Butler-Hardaway-Burke nice resonance. 

With KP and [?] Irving in 2019?

A reasonable fantasy save for how Minny will never do it without our #1. 
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #692 on: September 19, 2018, 10:40:33 PM »

"Numbers work"

You keep saying that

Usually check beforehand - that's the process.

Yeah, picks are always part of a deal for a star.  Thats what the ...... is
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #693 on: Today at 01:16:54 AM »

butler is close to being on the wrong side of 30.

5 years?  what will a 34 year old butler look like?

pass on a deal.

free agent is one thing.  trade?  no .
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« Reply #694 on: Today at 02:20:04 AM »

I remember seeing Jimmy Butler in his rook year come in early 4Q in some random game.  And thinking Whoa, look at that guy.  Physical, tough, played hard, good athleticism.  Didn't do anything outstanding, but sure looked the part of a good NBA player.  I tucked the thought away, considering that maybe he played sparingly because he was an athlete without much feel for the game.

2nd year broke through.
3rd year some struggles as a high minute starter.
4th year = stud.

It certainly would have been a no-brainer to trade for Butler 2 years ago.  Now, you'll get him from 29-34 at big money.
And likely Knix not ready to compete his first two, key prime years.
So the timing isn't exactly perfect.
And his attitude is an issue these days as well.

But the mofo can play.
Probably a Top 5, certainly Top 10, two-way player.

I'd talk to KZ, because if you bring in Butler, it becomes Butler's team, especially since KZ will miss half the year.  And you've got a 1st year coach, and lots of impressionable yute, and you don't want power struggles and conflict.  Especially because you need Butler to re-sign.  You bring Butler in and he wields the power.  Is it possible to do an extend-and-trade?  Or is that no longer an option, or won't give Butler a big enough cash in?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #695 on: Today at 02:29:07 AM »

Avery Bradley will remain better than D’’Angelo Russell for the rest of his career.

Butler to the Clips seems most likely. The Nets don’t have the assets to outbid them
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #696 on: Today at 04:08:42 AM »

CBSports has the Knix starting 5 ranked as the worst in the Association:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-every-nba-starting-lineup-for-opening-night-warriors-lead-way-how-do-lebron-james-lakers-stack-up/

Of course, Knox may start.  Or even Mario.
With Fizz on record not fond of starting two SG's on the wing.
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« Reply #697 on: Today at 07:53:52 AM »

CBSports has the Knix starting 5 ranked as the worst in the Association:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-every-nba-starting-lineup-for-opening-night-warriors-lead-way-how-do-lebron-james-lakers-stack-up/

Of course, Knox may start.  Or even Mario.
With Fizz on record not fond of starting two SG's on the wing.

Funny. 

Slotting in Lee & Thomas as starting front line. 

As you point out, goes against everything Fizdale has been espousing. 

Still, would expect Lance so see serious minutes off the bench at both SF and PF. 

Question...what role does Lee play if he remains a Knick? 
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #698 on: Today at 08:10:32 AM »

Lance has to play well to see time.

Is hard nosed defending enough to get him 20-25 minutes a night?

It would be different if he was a LOCKDOWN guy.

I see the Knicks better with Lance bolted to the pine.  JUICE it up.  Give me 5 guys who can score.
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« Reply #699 on: Today at 11:11:31 AM »

I see Lance as more of a 10-15 min guy.
Maybe more some nights when Knox or Mario aren't right.
I don't see him as guy we are relying on.
Except to steady the bench and give effort and take a 3 now and then when open.


I'd be calling rook GM Elton Brand and inquiring about Fultz.
Too bad we don't have a decent vet PG to offer.


Emeka Oka4 dropped by NOPe.
Not surprising.
Gave them solid limited minute effort last year.
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