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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11460 on: March 11, 2020, 03:22:38 PM »

KZ is still young and has a lot he can improve on.  But even in this down-and-up year, KZ is 13th in Defensive Real +/-.  Of the 12 guys above him, only 4 have a higher Offensive Real +/- rating: Giannis, LeBJ, Kawhi, Jokic.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM

Extend down to the Top 30 in DRPM, only adds Chris Paul with a better ORPM.  With Jimmy Butler with the same O rating.

Which corroborates my assertion the other day that KZ is a Top 10 2-way player.  Tatum close but below KZ on both metrics.

Others: Siakim and Anthony Davis.  Lowry, Embiid.

Best 2-way players:
1. Giannis
2. LeBJ
3. Kawhi
4. Anthony Davis
5. Butler
6.  KZ
7. Tatum
8. Middleton
9. Chris Paul
10. Siakim
11. Lowry
12. Embiid
13. Covington
14. Simmons
15. Jaylen

Something like that.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11461 on: March 11, 2020, 04:02:51 PM »

Thoughts on some players:
1.  Never seen a player like Randle...goes to the Basket, gets within a few feet and consistently  misses the shot.
2.  Ntilikina... with right coaching will be very good
3.  Knox...terrible pick.  Will be out of the league shortly
4.  Barrett...Still don't know.  Probably will be a utility player somewhere but definitely not worth the pick we used.  I think Calipari was wrong on his upside.
5. Robinson...will be great. 
6.  Payton...serviceable but not an elite PG to build around.  Doesn't have the mindset to be clutch.
7.  Portis...definitely a keeper.  Can help any team.
8.  Gibson...doesn't hurt the team.
9.  Rest to the roster...bla
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11462 on: March 11, 2020, 04:12:53 PM »

1.  Never seen a player like Randle...goes to the Basket, gets within a few feet and consistently  misses the shot.

Muddy did that for us.
Antoine Walker was masterful at driving, spinning, and tossing the ball at the rim.
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« Reply #11463 on: March 11, 2020, 05:43:58 PM »

Maybe Jerry will give us some stats to back that up.
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« Reply #11464 on: March 11, 2020, 05:46:21 PM »

And I see he provides the obligatory Frank post after a positive game.  Yeah maybe 4th or 5th coach is the ticket.
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« Reply #11465 on: March 11, 2020, 05:56:30 PM »

In what quadrant of the known universe are the Hawks bailing on Trae.

Didn't realize you got high.  Happy you have access to some good ganja. 

Trae is a generational talent.
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« Reply #11466 on: March 11, 2020, 06:25:26 PM »

KZ is still young and has a lot he can improve on.  But even in this down-and-up year, KZ is 13th in Defensive Real +/-. 


Nobody cares
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« Reply #11467 on: March 11, 2020, 06:37:18 PM »

I do! Nice stat..
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« Reply #11468 on: March 11, 2020, 06:38:52 PM »

Main thing I see here is - despite his positive line - Frank cant run a team.

 That's what you saw ? I saw the ball bouncing off Julius ass again and again. Everybody sees what they want to see!
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« Reply #11469 on: March 11, 2020, 07:11:30 PM »

Trae is a generational talent.


As is Anthony Davis

Get the drift - or is it way over yer noggin?
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« Reply #11470 on: March 11, 2020, 07:32:23 PM »


Porzingod now with 9pts back-to-back! WHOP  WHOP!!!

Thank goodness — I was worried you would be buried down in that hole and asphyixiate!

Keep in moving mavtroll.
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« Reply #11471 on: March 11, 2020, 09:10:44 PM »

Trae is a generational talent.


As is Anthony Davis

Get the drift - or is it way over yer noggin?

AND THE WEINER IS....

Kiid.

Dear tube steak.

Davis played SEVEN seasons for the Pelicans before he leveraged a trade.  And was on the tail end of his first big extension.

Trae is completing his second season on his rookie deal.

Too subtle a distinction?

My bad.



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« Reply #11472 on: March 11, 2020, 09:18:00 PM »


Which corroborates my assertion the other day that KZ is a Top 10 2-way player.  Tatum close but below KZ on both metrics.



Someone tell BO to be a great 2-way player you need to, you know, play.

Porzingis after two klunkers gets DNP-rest'd
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« Reply #11473 on: March 11, 2020, 10:16:34 PM »

Holy fucking shit. Game. World. Game.

I love them both as much as they both make me worry.

Be safe one and all & try to be smart about it.
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« Reply #11474 on: March 11, 2020, 10:30:06 PM »

NBA suspends season

Knicks lock into shittier pick.
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