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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11520 on: March 13, 2020, 08:29:35 AM »

Magic -  Fultz, Bomba, Isaac

Denver -    Murray, Porter, Bol

Thunder -  Shae, Ferguson, Diallo, Bazley

Knicks -   Frank, KK, RJ, Mitch



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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11521 on: March 13, 2020, 08:42:51 AM »

Cavs -  Garland, Sexton, Cedi, Zizic

Nets -   Allen, Kurucs, Musa, Chiozza, Pinson

Wiz -   Hachimura, Wagner, Bryant, Schofield, Robinson, Brown

Bulls -    Coby, Markaanen, Carter, Gafford, Hutchison

Blazers -   Simons, Trent, Little, Collins
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11522 on: March 13, 2020, 08:52:15 AM »

I did that fairly quickly.
Might have missed some yute, especially injured guys.
Added in Clark, who looked good the little I saw him (parts of 2 games).

Hunter looks good to me.  Nice defender.  A solid 3&D wing as advertised.
I'd take him over RJB. 

25 was my somewhat arbitrary cutoff.
Embiid turns 26 next week.  Siakim 26 in 3 weeks. FVV & Normal Powell are 26.

Not that 26 is old, it just goes into the young vet category, and I was focused more on genuine yute.  So by definition, many of these young guys are unformed and their potential outweighs their present.


Vince at 43 is more than twice as old as 3 Hawks.  And could have fathered everyone on the roster except Teague and Dedman.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11523 on: March 13, 2020, 08:56:57 AM »

Hornets -    Monk, Bridges, Washington, McDaniels

Detroit -    Wood, Maker, Douyamba, Brown, Svi

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11524 on: March 13, 2020, 09:04:17 AM »

Every team has some yute.
I think I caught the 7 best 25 and under teams.

If you rank all the teams under-25 talent, the Knix unlikely to make the Top 10 and probably closer to 15 -- middle of the pack.  Which is sad given all the losing we've done.  Mitch and RJB have fairly good potential, if both showing limitations.  Knox, Franc hopefully will get it in another year or two or three.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11525 on: March 13, 2020, 09:19:17 AM »

Thats the point.  Every team has building blocks.

Sometimes you just don't know.  Players develop at different paces.

I put CHI on your list, surely.    ORL as well.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11526 on: March 13, 2020, 09:29:45 AM »

Define building blocks.

I think we use the term differently.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11527 on: March 13, 2020, 01:25:45 PM »

Use baseball's model as a way to rank prospects.

AAA  Mitch,  RJ
AA    Frank
A      Knox


Now apply to other teams.


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11528 on: March 13, 2020, 03:10:45 PM »

What was Siakam 2 years ago?  You have to include all possible "pops" as Bo would say.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11529 on: March 14, 2020, 02:16:23 AM »

2 years ago Siakim was part of the best bench in the League along with FVV.  A bit raw on O, but developing a power spin move, and becoming a long-armed force on D.  He definitely projected as a next year starter and guy to watch.  But he's really improved on 3's and also his handle, making him an all-around threat on O. 

But I know what you mean.

I think of it as 1/3 what the yute is now, 1/3 potential, and 1/3 where they could project in 3-5 years.  With variance for age.  A 21 year old has more unfilled potential than a 24 year old.  But development proceeds at different rates.  Bodies fill out faster or slower.  Mentally things click faster for some than others.  Some guys are hungrier and work harder. 

I always think that's tough for fans to know much about.  Who works hard and has a good attitude?  Who parties a lot, has distractions and coasts? 
Work ethic and outside life are not something fans know much about.

And even that doesn't necessarily tell you enough.  Lou Williams apparently stopped hanging around young players years ago, as he likes to enjoy his off time and didn't want to be a bad influence.  Maybe that helps explain his D, but he's a deadly scorer and 4Q assassin.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11530 on: March 14, 2020, 10:41:47 AM »

Sirrius NBA Radio Saturday morning show (I think it's Hahn) -

Discussing NBA maybe just going straight to playoffs upon return.

Mimicking a Knick (or other bad team) fan:  "I've seen 65 games of this team - that's enough"

heh

- Of course there are still races to decide - would the teams currently 9-12 be seriously offended?  Would they have to agree to it?

Venues may also be a problem - which ones are already booked - should the playoffs run at different times than initially thought (thus lending credence to the theory that reg season games would not be rescheduled)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11531 on: March 14, 2020, 10:58:16 AM »

Not what they intend, but I've been assuming these will be the final stats and standings and the reg season is kaput.  Really, I think they'll be lucky if they get the playoffs in at all.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11532 on: March 14, 2020, 11:23:45 AM »

Sucks for Pelicans - they were taking that 8th slot in the West.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11533 on: March 14, 2020, 05:22:58 PM »

Very slim chance they would have been able to catch Memphis. Pels could have passed Portland for 9th though, so there’s that.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11534 on: March 14, 2020, 06:06:09 PM »

Very slim chance they would have been able to catch Memphis. Pels could have passed Portland for 9th though, so there’s that.

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