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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2700 on: Today at 12:55:53 PM »

Bo - this year's Jae Crowder / Demarre Carroll is Dorian Finney Smith. He's going to get a decent contract this summer.

I've liked what I've seen of Finney-Smith.
Looked good v NYK.
And I've seen DAL two other times.
Good energy, smart player.

Also, Check out Okogie.  He's intriguing as well. Mr Effort type.

DAL v. HOU.  Doncic was having a messy game.  lot of effort, but not getting much done.  Good plays mixed with bad.  But then down 8 with under 3 mins left, Luca popped in a wide open corner 3.  Then did a step back straight on 3 over Capela!  Hit a short midrange shot getting free in the paint.  then another stepback 3 over Capela.  A Doncic 11-0 run (helped that CP3 missed a pair of FT's in the middle), and DAL won.  Crazy.  Doncic really has a knack.  He works hard and tries all the time, and when he gets hot even questionable shots work.  The guy has that special something.  It will be something when he tightens up his game, but the razzle is part of his package.  Having a terrific season.

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But WHY Tho?
« Reply #2701 on: Today at 12:56:54 PM »

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Fizdale said he would never allow his young prospects Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox and Ntilikina to try a game in the G League when their minutes were reduced, feeling hed rather have them under his supervision. Before last season, the Knicks hired Craig Robinson as player developmental director to upgrade the prestige of their G League program.

This is a slap at the Knick organization.  The G-League should be a legit breeding ground for our young talent.
It's Westchester. They can play in G League AND come sit on the bench under his supervision.
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« Reply #2702 on: Today at 01:03:51 PM »

Also, a different position, but check out Monte Morris.
A #51 pick in 2017, he's having a great season for DEN.
Very solid all-around game, doesn't make mistakes.  Plays hard. 
Really they got lucky, because MM is better than the erratic Wil Barton, and they probably wouldn't have found out without Barton getting injured.
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« Reply #2703 on: Today at 01:07:49 PM »

Let the guy coach how he sees fit.

And I like all this experimentation.
And without legit starters at some positions, everyone gets a shot.

I've been critical of Trier at PG.  But I could see it paying off down the road.  As Trier could feel more confident handling the ball and making passes, whether or not he ever plays PG again.  Fizz simply said you don't know if Trier can do it unless you give him an op and see how it goes.  This is a non-playoff/development year, so I'm onboard with see what works.
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« Reply #2704 on: Today at 01:14:03 PM »

WIZ lost another game.
Sato with a decent stat line but finished -23.
Uber netted 23 points on 9-14 FG, along with 7 FT's, 5 boards, 3 steals and a block.  But I guess I should lament just one assist ...

Wall was out (bone spurs) and OP3 left after 7 mins with a thigh booboo.  Oubre played 37 mins filling in for Porter.
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Re: But WHY Tho?
« Reply #2705 on: Today at 01:17:23 PM »

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Fizdale said he would never allow his young prospects Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox and Ntilikina to try a game in the G League when their minutes were reduced, feeling hed rather have them under his supervision. Before last season, the Knicks hired Craig Robinson as player developmental director to upgrade the prestige of their G League program.

This is a slap at the Knick organization. The G-League should be a legit breeding ground for our young talent.
It's Westchester. They can play in G League AND come sit on the bench under his supervision.

Uh, NO IT ISN'T.

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« Reply #2706 on: Today at 01:29:28 PM »

Let the guy coach how he sees fit.

And I like all this experimentation.
And without legit starters at some positions, everyone gets a shot.

I've been critical of Trier at PG.  But I could see it paying off down the road.  As Trier could feel more confident handling the ball and making passes, whether or not he ever plays PG again.  Fizz simply said you don't know if Trier can do it unless you give him an op and see how it goes.  This is a non-playoff/development year, so I'm onboard with see what works.

Maybe Fizz has the right approach but he is explaining it the wrong way. 
He speaks of the G League as if it were solely a demotion. 
He has to get his foot out of his mouth out of his head out of his ass.
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« Reply #2707 on: Today at 02:03:35 PM »

I think the Knicks "organization" is beyond insult.
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Well, he don't like the young folks I know. He told me one night on his radio show. He's got him a medal he won in the war. It weighs five-hundred pounds and it sleeps on his floor.

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« Reply #2708 on: Today at 02:11:34 PM »

The G League produced some of our top guns:

Junior Hardaway, Damyean Dotson,

and previously Langston Galloway
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« Reply #2709 on: Today at 02:24:35 PM »

Let the guy coach how he sees fit.

And I like all this experimentation.
And without legit starters at some positions, everyone gets a shot.

I've been critical of Trier at PG.  But I could see it paying off down the road.  As Trier could feel more confident handling the ball and making passes, whether or not he ever plays PG again.  Fizz simply said you don't know if Trier can do it unless you give him an op and see how it goes.  This is a non-playoff/development year, so I'm onboard with see what works.

Maybe Fizz has the right approach but he is explaining it the wrong way. 
He speaks of the G League as if it were solely a demotion. 
He has to get his foot out of his mouth out of his head out of his ass.

Fizz is NOT Demeaning The G-League. 

Hell, Burke recaptured his mojo there. 

His is prioritizing having the likes of Robinson & Knox taking their lumps at the major league level, and practicing every day with the A-Team. 

And next season, unless my man Mario gets his game in gear, one might expect young Hicks to take the next step. 

Knicks and C-Lee have apparently concluded some major minutes in Westchester might facilitate him getting in rhythm.  And punch his ticket out of town to a contender. 

Fizz apparently prefers to use the Pine and the concept of a TIME OUT to double clutch our yute.  Seems to have had a pretty good effect on Dotson and Ntilikina.  And Burke. 
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The double-double machine
« Reply #2710 on: Today at 03:30:36 PM »

We don't NEED much from a 23-29 win team.

How much did we NEED Kyle O'Quinn?  Or Michael Beasley?  The Forum wanted to keep both.

Enes is a much better player than those two. Why you want an automatic double-double out of town? Just make a reasonable offer and see if he accepts.
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« Reply #2711 on: Today at 03:35:06 PM »


DAL v. HOU.  Doncic was having a messy game.  lot of effort, but not getting much done.  Good plays mixed with bad.  But then down 8 with under 3 mins left, Luca popped in a wide open corner 3.  Then did a step back straight on 3 over Capela!  Hit a short midrange shot getting free in the paint.  then another stepback 3 over Capela.  A Doncic 11-0 run (helped that CP3 missed a pair of FT's in the middle), and DAL won.  Crazy.  Doncic really has a knack.  He works hard and tries all the time, and when he gets hot even questionable shots work.  The guy has that special something.  It will be something when he tightens up his game, but the razzle is part of his package.  Having a terrific season.

DONCIC, thats the guy I wanted. Pity that ship has sailed!
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Re: The double-double machine
« Reply #2712 on: Today at 03:52:51 PM »

We don't NEED much from a 23-29 win team.

How much did we NEED Kyle O'Quinn?  Or Michael Beasley?  The Forum wanted to keep both.

Enes is a much better player than those two. Why you want an automatic double-double out of town? Just make a reasonable offer and see if he accepts.

I don't know... i think the value of the "walking double double" is overrated in today's game.

A) With faster space and scoring up there are more possessions and shot attempts taken - so more opportunities to get 10 and 10.
B) He would probably need to average 20 and 15 to make up for the lack of defense
C) Can't shoot threes, or even the standard Kurt Thomas /  David Lee 2-Pt Set shot. 
D) Needs to score off of misses.  Has limited low post game against good defenses.
e) double double in Pt/Rebs is the easiest type of double double to find a replacement for.  He is big and near the rim.  Not an exclusive skill. 
f) He is an "Elite" rebounder on the offensive glass.  Not much else in his game.  Not a slick passer.  Average IQ.  Clueless on D though effortful.

What's that worth?  A Mario Hezonja type deal maybe.  But I wouldn't prioritize Enes this summer and he will probably take an offer before we get around to him.
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