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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11700 on: April 11, 2020, 10:34:38 AM »

Are the circa #20 picks we inherit going to be hidden gems?



Could be.

We also get arguably a better pick in 2020 for not having KP and THJ.

And not paying KP all that cash opend possibilities - including if you just want to slot in a Randle-Harkless-Gibson combo moving forward (same price as the one tall moody Euro)

I think your best argument is "if we waited, would a better deal have surfaced?".  I think maybe there could have been - during the sign and trade window after his final contracted year.  Fun to speculate, I guess.  But getting higher picks in any KP trade means KP accepting a deal to a poor team, with certain (Golden State this year for example) exceptions.
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« Reply #11701 on: April 11, 2020, 10:36:49 AM »

The Stanford point guard, for instance - was listed in one mock as a #20 pick for 2021 draft - this before he entered for 2020.  (he may still decide to go back to college for his soph season)
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« Reply #11702 on: April 11, 2020, 10:40:19 AM »

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257845/NBA-Teams-Want-2020-Draft-Pushed-Back-Beyond-August-1st

It’s a safe bet there won’t be any team activities till at earliest September if not till after Christmas.

The article you link to says they envision THIS YEAR's season ending around Labor Day.  That would have teams in the gym working out (short training camp prior to completing current season) around June 20-July 1.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11703 on: April 11, 2020, 10:42:33 AM »

I figured we could discuss year to year

Anyone want to take it from the 48-34, dealing Ewing (rather than get nothing for him), Mark Jackson/Marcus Camby choke year?

Rather than get nothing for Ewing.

Rathe than get all of that cap space from an expiring  contract we got garbage and bad contracts.

And the Camby choke?

His sister was sexuallly assaulted, for fuck's sake.

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« Reply #11704 on: April 11, 2020, 10:55:54 AM »

This is old but -

Bradley Beal to Brooklyn?  Interesting

(also has the snippet on Rozier and NYK)


https://basketball.realgm.com/news/wiretap/tags/18/Trade%20Rumor
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« Reply #11705 on: April 11, 2020, 10:56:42 AM »

I think calling Glen Rice garbage is about the most idiotic thing I have heard here in some time.


Nice to hear from you, Stern-a-la.
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« Reply #11706 on: April 11, 2020, 02:41:53 PM »

I think it was hard to make a worse deal for KZ.
There was no reason to rush.

A new book about Philly's tank Process details how KZ's agent jerked around PHI and never met with their GM Hinkie despite his many attempts. 
https://newzandar.com/2020/04/08/how-kristaps-porzingis-nba-draft-runaround-changed-the-fate-of-two-franchises/
Apparently they had many grievances against PHI including their development of players.

PHI wound up taking Okafor 3rd.
Which was very good for us, since then we got KZ 4th.

If 6ers took KZ 3rd, we would have had a choice of Okafor, Zonja, Cauley Stein, Muddy, Stan Johnson, FranktheTank.  Well, at least that's the rest of the Top 9.
My Turner, Booker, Winslow were all there too, but went 10-13.
I assume we'd go Okafor since he was considered a potential #1.

Btw, I wonder if any other draft had not one starter from 5-9.  Unusual to find a handful of role players that high.  For such a spotty draft, the 2nd round was pretty solid.  https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2015.html

Otherwise, the book says that Fultz wanted to avoid PHI & NYK, thinking they'd be too near his MD home.  And maybe big city shy.  Certainly not encouraging.
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« Reply #11707 on: April 11, 2020, 03:14:30 PM »

I would have taken Winslow at 4 if KP was gone but would have been ok with Okafor
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« Reply #11708 on: April 11, 2020, 03:37:50 PM »

I thought Winslow as a player was somewhat overrated because he was mature and poised.
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« Reply #11709 on: April 11, 2020, 04:56:17 PM »

Rathe than get all of that cap space from an expiring  contract we got garbage and bad contracts.


and picks

That we didnt use the picks as wisely as you (or anyone) liked is beyond the point.  Had the picks BEEN used wisely - lets say optimally for sake of argument - makes the Ewing deal smell pretttttty, pret-tyyyyyy good.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11711 on: April 12, 2020, 08:22:38 PM »

I think calling Glen Rice garbage is about the most idiotic thing I have heard here in some time.


Nice to hear from you, Stern-a-la.

Hope all is sare with your family on the home front.
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« Reply #11712 on: April 12, 2020, 09:06:22 PM »

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And: SARE: Southeast Asian Review of English is an open access peer-reviewed journal founded in 1980 that publishes scholarly articles and other materials.
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« Reply #11713 on: April 13, 2020, 12:22:15 AM »

I think calling Glen Rice garbage is about the most idiotic thing I have heard here in some time.


Nice to hear from you, Stern-a-la.

Hope all is sare with your family on the home front.

Thank you.  We have been fortunate.
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« Reply #11714 on: April 13, 2020, 02:40:47 AM »

Fortunate you have a Dem Guv and not some disorganized Trump guy (see Florida) or a typical GOPer who doesn't believe in science much.
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