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« Reply #11745 on: April 18, 2020, 09:34:56 PM »

I meant fan of Jeff, not Abby.
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How about some Fizdale
« Reply #11746 on: April 18, 2020, 09:51:08 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11747 on: April 19, 2020, 08:12:06 AM »

Didn't like Fizz before he came.  His development of yute and tanking grew on me.

Hornacek was put in a bad spot.  He was Phil's 2nd/3rd choice, after Fish fried and Rambo wasn't courageous enough.  Horny was tasked with implementing Phil's beloved but decrepit system.  And then had to try to assert himself as the front office began to crumble.  All the while with Phil's man Rambo keeping an eye on things and reporting back to Phil.

No players from Horny's first season are still on the Knix, and only Franc & Dot -- rooks then -- are still here from two years ago, Hornacek's 2nd season.

Knix burn through a lot of players and coaches (and these days front office execs too).

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11748 on: April 19, 2020, 12:25:27 PM »

Players have to achieve - or they are "burned through".


Barrett stays.

Robinson - for big bucks - stays.

This year's first pick - stays.

Harkless - if signed more than 2 years - I put in the STAYS column


(Randle is out as a building block - since I have seen evidence we may deal him)


All other bets are off.


Need 8 more base (first team) guys - let's start building.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11749 on: April 19, 2020, 12:50:33 PM »

Players achieve better with continuity and familiarity with each other and system.  And I've long been of the opinion most Knix would look better with a starting quality PG as well.

The churn is partly a sign of not having the right players, and partly a symptom of being a poorly organized team without a coherent strategy.

Franc & Dot as the longest tenured Knix says a lot, methinks.
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Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11750 on: April 22, 2020, 10:26:12 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.
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Re: Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11751 on: April 22, 2020, 10:54:18 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.

Still hoping none of that actually happens.
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« Reply #11752 on: April 23, 2020, 01:36:09 PM »


Brock Aller, a longtime Cavaliers executive and confidant of owner Dan Gilbert, has agreed to join the Knicks front office in a high-ranking position, sources told the Daily News.

Barring anything unforeseen, Aller’s hiring is expected soon. It will be the first major move from new president Leon Rose, who took over about two weeks before the coronavirus shutdown. Aller, known as a capologist, served as a personal assistant to Gilbert for 10 years before a promotion in 2017 to senior director of basketball operations.

The Knicks asked and received permission to interview Aller prior to the coronavirus shutdown, according to sources. He was “instrumental” in the Cavaliers trade with the Knicks for JR Smith and Iman Shumpert in 2015, according to Gilbert. At the time, Smith was a client of Rose, the longtime agent at CAA.

“(Aller)'s probably one of the finer capologists in the league,” Gilbert told Cleveland.com in 2017. "He knows more about the cap than probably PricewaterhouseCoopers knows about the IRS code. He lives with the cap, with the collective bargaining agreement.

“He comes up with ideas on things that the league has never heard of, they have to go into their committees to check if it's OK or not. He's sort of a savant with this. He's a space-creator, the kind of space that (Cavs GM Koby Altman) will need in the cap. He was involved in probably every trade the last few years in a creative sense.”
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11753 on: April 23, 2020, 02:14:35 PM »

So some sports writer with lots of downtime went through 3 scenarios if Pippen was traded before the Bulls 2nd threepeat was complete.

One fantasy has Pip traded to PHX in 1995.  Jordan then signing with NYK to team up with his bud PE33.   2 titles, etc.

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Sensing the need for a big-name coach for their eventual pursuit of Jordan, the Knicks bring Chuck Daly, his former Olympic coach, out of retirement in March after they fire Don Nelson. Daly vouches for another big-name acquisition, Dennis Rodman, whom he knows from their time together in Detroit. The Knicks trade Anthony Mason and Brad Lohaus for Rodman, still in San Antonio, rather than Larry Johnson as they did in reality.

The loaded Knicks win back-to-back championships in 1997 and 1998. Jordan plays for two more seasons, but New York's aging roster doesn't allow it to contend any longer. Ewing retires as a Knick, and eventually the team builds a statue in his honor outside of Madison Square Garden. Jordan is hailed as the Reggie Jackson of his era, a legend who may have won elsewhere, but would forever be associated with New York.

Jordan may have changed teams in the wild summer of 1996 in this scenario, but Shaq stays put. Having won back-to-back championships in Orlando, Shaq sees no reason to leave. The Lakers pursue Jordan, who prefers New York due to his close friendships with Ewing and Charles Oakley, and Alonzo Mourning, who ultimately remains with the Heat. The Lakers settle for Dikembe Mutombo. After eight years of coming up short in the hunt for a title, Kobe Bryant leaves the Lakers to try his hand at reviving the Los Angeles Clippers.

In this alternate reality, Jackson leaves the Bulls a year after Jordan and lands with the Philadelphia 76ers. While Allen Iverson bristles at the constraints of the triangle offense, the Eastern Conference simply doesn't have any other team capable of filling the power vacuum left behind by Jordan's retirement and the aging of fellow contenders like the Heat and Pacers. Philadelphia reaches the Finals in 2001, but are vanquished by Tim Duncan's San Antonio Spurs, who win four of five titles from 1999-2003 without the Lakers standing in their way. Indiana claims the 2000 title, which many consider asterisked due to Duncan's meniscus injury. With additional championships in 2005, 2007 and 2014, Duncan retires with seven in total and a legitimate argument for the title of greatest player of all-time.
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Re: Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11754 on: April 23, 2020, 02:34:00 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.

You mean....

You mean same old dumbfuck too much time on their hands sitting atound a camp fire in an intense circle jerk than pcosting on their pathetic blog impatient clueless brain dead Knicks Fans. 
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Re: Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11755 on: April 23, 2020, 02:35:42 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.

Still hoping none of that actually happens.

Exhale.
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Re: Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11756 on: April 23, 2020, 04:25:12 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.

Still hoping none of that actually happens.

Exhale.

These are the Knicks. I think I can hold my breath a little while longer, if it’s all the same with you...
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Chemistry and Practice have given way to Talent and Efficiency
« Reply #11757 on: April 23, 2020, 06:44:26 PM »

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/4/23/21229237/nba-roster-chemistry-free-agency-team-turnover

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“The Spurs don’t have an advantage anymore,” Dudley said. “We all have a disadvantage. Now it’s who has the most talent. Talent is gonna win out. Talent and vets.”

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As Boston Celtics head coach Brad Stevens joked, “We get three weeks to get ready for a season, then we never practice again.”

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“My gut tells me that roster turnover is what’s causing the thinning of playbooks,” one western conference general manager said. “And the thinning of playbooks is what’s causing this standardization of playing style.”

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Players feel it, too. “Most teams don’t do anything. Really it’s just take the ball out the basket, pick-and-roll, and run,” Rivers said. “The coaches are really here to guide you now. It’s crazy. It’s more ATO’s (after time-out plays) and out of bounds, and late clock, fourth quarter, that’s when coaching really comes in play. That’s all we go over in shootaround. Most of our stuff involves defense because our offense is fucking ridiculous, man. We don’t really do anything on offense.”

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Re: Simply the worst possible scenario
« Reply #11758 on: April 23, 2020, 08:34:51 PM »

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-realistic-offseason

CP3 and we have to give away picks instead of receive them?  LMAO!

Kevin Love or Demarr Derozan because the Knicks need a name?

Wow. Same old Knicks.

I wont complain but not liking CP with DeRozen - if other options are available.

I take DeMarr over Chris if we dont draft Edwards.  If that is even out there - what would that deal look like?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11759 on: April 24, 2020, 01:54:59 AM »

So Brock Aller is the guy who told the Cavs that offering Thompson and Love the contracts that they did would be a terrible idea? Glad he’s not in charge of our draft.
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