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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12120 on: May 22, 2020, 12:19:42 PM »

I don't see Franc becoming a long-term starting PG. 
More of a complementary G off the bench.


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His playing days were before my time.
But apparently the next day you always felt it if you played against Jerry Sloan.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12121 on: May 22, 2020, 01:32:31 PM »

Franc is more Rory Sparrow than Charlie Ward.



NONSENSE.

I agree

Sparrow was an excellent player. FN has a ways to go
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12122 on: May 22, 2020, 01:45:02 PM »

How many guards (make that players) averaged 13, 9, 6 and 2 (steals) per 36 minutes last year?

No guesses?

Answer:.  Just one.

It was ELFRID PAYTON
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12123 on: May 22, 2020, 01:53:48 PM »

I don't see Franc becoming a long-term starting PG. 
More of a complementary G off the bench.


Jerry Sloan, Hall of Fame N.B.A. Guard and Coach, Dies at 78
Helluva coach.
His playing days were before my time.
But apparently the next day you always felt it if you played against Jerry Sloan.

Van Lier Sloan Boerwinkle Love......heh....drawing a blank on 5th starter
Chet Walker

Bob Weiss Clifford Ray Jimmy King our friend Howard Porter off the pine.

Porter was dealt to Knicks in another beauty as we surrendered the pick that became Maurice Lucas (Porter then dealt for a lesser #1 which became Bill Robinzine for KC after we traded it for Ron Behagen)
Oy.   
Even pre-Dolan.....
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« Reply #12124 on: May 22, 2020, 02:04:27 PM »

I remember Rory Sparrow throwing a full court pass to a streaking player (Ewing?) for an alley-oop but instead of an assist the ball went through the net for a long three!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12125 on: May 22, 2020, 02:57:01 PM »

You're right, Rory Sparrow was pretty good.
Franc has a long way to go get to that level.
I probably should have gone with Darrell Walker, but I was in a hurry (and always had a soft spot for Walker).
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« Reply #12126 on: May 22, 2020, 04:36:12 PM »

Frank is starting to realize that hes either bigger or quicker than the players sent to guard him. Its giving him the confidence hes needed to control the game on both ends.

Give Mike Miller some kind of training camp with Frank and RJ, and see what you get.

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« Reply #12127 on: May 22, 2020, 04:46:45 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12129 on: May 22, 2020, 06:11:51 PM »

How many guards (make that players) averaged 13, 9, 6 and 2 (steals) per 36 minutes last year?

No guesses?

Answer:.  Just one.

It was ELFRID PAYTON

Don't get me wrong, Elfrid's a decent player; I like him enough. I just don't think he's a very good player for a team that can't shoot (us). Yes, there are a few guy's who came on late to shoot 3's, Kidd does jump to mind and Lopez. But Lopez is a different story, he always had a lovely touch, the 3 was just a shot he never took before, at all. Free throw ability is usually the tell. Kidd had brought up his FT % by 4th year and ended up shooting them in the 80s for the rest of his career. Elfrid is a career 62% free throw shooter. He ain't gonna become a 3 point shooter. Just ain't. Not even worth speculating on. Ready to see him move on unless our lineup drastically changes.
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« Reply #12130 on: May 22, 2020, 07:09:27 PM »

I think you have it backwards

Payton will stay on unless the team drastically changes.

This would include adding a lead guard in the draft - at which point we would allow Elfrid to leave IF we didnt deal Frank or Dennis.

This would also include adding CP3 of course.  Or Teague.  Or ________.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12131 on: May 22, 2020, 07:09:48 PM »

Draft

3 and D guard

https://hoopshype.com/2020/05/10/baylor-jared-butler-nba-draft-stock-interview/

Shades of Galloway, which is no knock at all. Sign him up for Westchester by all means.
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« Reply #12132 on: May 22, 2020, 07:15:53 PM »

I think you have it backwards

Payton will stay on unless the team drastically changes.

This would include adding a lead guard in the draft - at which point we would allow Elfrid to leave IF we didnt deal Frank or Dennis.

This would also include adding CP3 of course.  Or Teague.  Or ________.

Were not dumping Elfrid for beans. Bringing what he does off the bench hes an ideal stabilizer and tough competitor even without shooting. If he adds a steady deep ball, hed be a quality starter at this point. Perhaps moving him to the bench will allow him to shot hunt a bit more and that way get more comfortable doing it.
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Pray for Patrick
« Reply #12133 on: May 22, 2020, 08:15:22 PM »

Ewing hospitalized with the virus!
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Patrick Ewing reveals coronavirus diagnosis
« Reply #12134 on: May 22, 2020, 09:24:03 PM »

Ewing hospitalized with the virus!

This virus is serious and should not be taken lightly, Ewing said in a statement. I want to encourage everyone to stay safe and take care of yourselves and your loved ones. Now more than ever, I want to thank healthcare workers and everyone on the front lines.

Ill be fine and we will all get through this.
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