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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

 What I have been saying:


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2901220-2020-nba-draft-buzz-whod-trade-up-for-lamelo-ball-top-prospect-slipping

[chipstern]

Glad we dodged the Kidd bullet.

Thibs knows what the owner is and how the franchise looks when it’s running well. He definitely favors hard workers and people who focus on the defensive end. It will be interesting to see who fills out the staff.

I hope Thibs is excited to work with Miller who I hope we keep.

Lots of work to do.

Good. 

Agree about Kidd.  LOVED, LOVED, LOVED him as head coach on the floor for Woodson.  As a coach...makes me nervous, and that free agent magnet tease concerning Giannis is BULL Shit. 

Agree about Miller.  Be interesting to see how TT defines his staff.  Rod Strickland's name was floated. 

Now send up a prayer for Haliburton.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyrese-haliburton-1.html

Pretty impressive stat line.  God knows he can SHOOT. And DEFEND. 

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

NBADRAFT.NET still has him falling to us at #6.  If we could get him there, trading up for Ball, tempting as that might be, seems like an over reach. 

THEN AGAIN, NBADraft.Net projects us taking PGs with all three of our picks, which seems dubious. 

Be that as it may, even at #6, something tasty looks to drop in our lap.  Not sure we are absolutely committed to drafting a PG come hell or high water. 

Signing PG Jared Harper, even at 5'11", is a tell. 

And I think Ntilikina is TT's kind of guy.  He was making significant progress on the offensive end the last few weeks when the season was sht down. 

Be interesting to see how TT & Perry proceed with Peyton and Dennis Smith.  A lot depends on how the draft goes. 

AS YOU WERE.

[facilitatorn]

Hell no to any kind of trading up in this draft. Hopefully the lotto gods will be nice enough to give us a crack at Deni, Okongwu, or the choice of either, especially now Thibs is here.

[Kam]

Offense                                               Defense                                          Player Development

[kiidcarter8]

And I think Ntilikina is TT's kind of guy.  He was making significant progress on the offensive end the last few weeks when the season was sht down.



yep  killed it


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/gamelog/2020

[carlos123]

Offense                                               Defense                                          Player Development

Why do you have Woodson there, and for offense?



Yes, great offensive "system"!

[Kam]

As for the offense, Thibs teams have never been high 3 point shooting teams, that's one of his weaknesses. But that's where Mike Woodson comes in.

Up until the GSW/Steph Curry revolution in 2015, the 2012-13 Knicks were the greatest 3 point shooting team ever. They thrived off of small ball and 3 point shots

For those looking for proof of this "greatest 3 point shooting team ever (until 2015) claim".

They had the 2nd most attempts all time at 2371, 1st was the 2013-14 Rockets with 2680

They had the 2nd most makes all time at 891, behind the 2013-14 Rockets with 933

The Rockets shot more and made more threes but they weren't as efficient since the Rockets shot 34.8% from 3 while the Knicks shot 37.6%

This Knicks had this success due to Mike Woodson moving Melo to the 4 and running a 2 guard back court with and shooting wings

Basically Woodson had a rotation of Tyson Chandler, Kurt Thomas, Marcus Camby, and Kenyon Martin playing the 5 defending the rim

Then he had stretch 4s in Melo, Steve Novak, and Chris Copeland

He had shooting/defensive wings with JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Ronnie Brewer

Then had a backcourt with ball dominant playmakers that controlled the flow of the game Jason Kidd, Raymond Felton, and Pablo Prigioni.

Sound like a modern day set up right?

[carlos123]

Now Woodson was an offensive “genius”.

Lordy have Mercy!!!

Kamster, Kafka would be proud of you.

[Kam]

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[Kam]

Now Woodson was an offensive “genius”.

Lordy have Mercy!!!

Kamster, Kafka would be proud of you.

What I expected from you. 

1. Using "genius" when it was never mentioned.
2. Not using any evidence/fact to refute a post that was factual.
3. Resorting to name calling.

[Kam]

I think (just my opinion) we just guaranteed his option with the Thibs signing. 
Thibs needs people familiar with his ways.
Mitch stays 2nd unit.

[facilitatorn]

Taj on the team doesn’t mean Taj starts. I think the likelihood is up we pick up his option or reserve the MLE for him.

[lesterluv]

Excellent long form piece on how the I-am-a-buttkiidstupid^tm-fucking-moron approach to coronavirus has killed thousands in Florida and still threatens lesterluv's summer entertainment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/coronavirus-ravaged-florida-as-ron-desantis-sidelined-scientists-and-followed-trump/2020/07/25/0b8008da-c648-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html


***4 days to go, Carlos, don't tell me to tone it down. In fact, I may not be able to until the fat lady successfully sings on the final series in October. October? WTF? October 13th? Jeezus...the world really is upside down.

[carlos123]

Now Woodson was an offensive “genius”.

Lordy have Mercy!!!

Kamster, Kafka would be proud of you.

What I expected from you. 

1. Using "genius" when it was never mentioned.
2. Not using any evidence/fact to refute a post that was factual.
3. Resorting to name calling.

1. Implied.
2. Factual? Maybe he got lucky with Kidd/Prigioni. What happened the following year?
3. Ok, I’ll go back to Kamster the Great Hamster.
4. 🙄

[bodiddley]

Thibs was said to be the front runner all along.
And the extended search meant Miller had little chance.
The Knix hand out their usual 5 year deal (even Derek Fisher got one).  That's just Dolanbucks, but I guess if you're wasting his money, Dolan is gonna want a say now and then.

Well, Knix have reinvented their front office and will have a new coaches in place (we'll see who the assistants are and whether Miller sticks around). 
Now we'll just need a team ...

Thibs is a non-nonsense guy who works guys hard.  At least our guys will be in good condition.  And we'll try to play D. 

Mitch and Franc defend.  Should mean Mitch is a key cog.  Interesting to see how RJB does.  A chance for Franc to be an important role player.  Knox better work on his D or he could be sidelined.  Especially if we draft the Israeli kid.   You'd think Thibs would want Taj back, a guy who knows his system and ways, and we need some vet leadership, and one who is tight with the coach helps.
Randle?  He's a grinder but poor on D.  See if Mitch & Julius can team up, but
likely we'll be looking to move on from Randle unless he can work with Mitch.

Thibs had some good pieces in Minny and was also the GM for a time.
Managed just one 1st round exit.

Wonder how Thibs changes our draft strategy.  We certainly still need a PG and outside shooting.  I guess Obi T will not be a Knick.  Perhaps Okongwu becomes more attractive.  A Bam Adebayo type inside force.