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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiidcarter8]

They failed to take into consideration that Luka was better than Fox, and you build around Doncic more than around Fox.  And that Luka would get their shooters -- Hield, Bogdanovich, Bjelica -- more open looks.


Time will tell.

Luka hasnt won anything

Bagley and Fox are tremendously talented.

Draft Luka, deal Fox?

But for what?

[kiidcarter8]

MARANT seriously out of control

[bodiddley]

Luka hasnt won anything

In the US ... so far

Draft Luka, deal Fox?
But for what?

Draft Luka and see how Luka and Fox fit.
And you can always run them 20 mins together, and 14 mins separately.
Having Fox run the 2nd unit when Doncic sits.  (Staggering their minutes just a possibility).

Bagley and Fox are tremendously talented.

Time will tell.
Let's see if Fox's skinny legs hold up.
If Bag's can get healthy and play some interior D.

Overall, I think Vlade made too many moves and had too much roster churn.
Along with the hefty spending.  Next year Hield and Barnes combine for $47M.

One thing useful is Harrison Barnes' deal is frontloaded and drops by $2M every year, so just $18M in the last year.  Hield's deal also diminishes by $2M per.
That's some good foresight.  Saves around $10M when Fox and then Bags need to be paid, while making Barnes and Hield more tradeable.

I hope Luke sticks around.  I think he has some good ideas.

[kiidcarter8]

I dont think Luke Walton is a top 80% coach in this league.

And like the players - nobody wants to coach there unless it is a new guy thrilled at any opportunity or a retread who has failed elsewhere - and likely twice.

RE:  players - I think maybe a hard and fast rule wit your commenting should be not to dis any player above a 20 PER.  Start there and you may be fine.

[bodiddley]

POR got a bit lucky that the delay and then restart allowed them to get a healthy Nurk and Zach for the stretch/bubble run.

Too bad Ariza bailed on the restart.  They don't have anyone to guard LeBJ.
Melo is LeBJ's size, but at 36 and never much fo a defender, he's of limited help.
At least between Melo and Ariza they'd have a dozen fouls.

I like Trent Jr. but he's virtually a rook, and a 6'5" wing at that.
Zonja has the requisite size, but he's no defender.

Not sure how they handle LeBJ.
Let him get his and stay home on everybody else?
Lakes missing A Very and Rondo will hurt.
Caruso and others will need to step up.
And means Lakes have no one to guard Dame.

[chipstern]

They failed to take into consideration that Luka was better than Fox, and you build around Doncic more than around Fox.  And that Luka would get their shooters -- Hield, Bogdanovich, Bjelica -- more open looks.


Time will tell.

Luka hasnt won anything

Bagley and Fox are tremendously talented.

Draft Luka, deal Fox?

But for what?

DUH

Pretty simple.

Draft Luka

KEEP Fox. 

Hasn't won anything yet?

Yikes > Duh > Seriously? 

The second coming of Larry Bird and you're going to split hairs and play The Contrarian Card. 

HILARIOUS. 

Luka can easily play point forward or the off guard. 

Two points?

Thomas and Dumars were pretty good.  And Vinnie was a combo guard as well. 

We are in the NO SPIN ZONE. 

Vlade FUCKING Blew it. 

Yes, it is hard to pass on generational bigs. 

Hakeem was one.

Sam Bowie, which a nice player, was most surely NOT. 

I believe the same lame rationale then.  We have Clyde Drexler, MJ would be redundant. 

Would you, YOU, pass on Anthony Edwards if Ball is off the board?  Simply because we ALREADY have RJ. 

RJ can play SF and SG, might even be better suited to SF in some matchups. 

Edwards is a combo guard, though admittedly, facilitation is not his strongest suit. 

A good rule of thumb, is draft the best talent, no? 

Kings got Bagley at #2, Atlanta leaped on Luka at #3, and converted him into Trae Young and Cam Reddish. 

Knicks got Robinson at #36.  Remains to be seen if Mitchell proves more impactful.  Bagley was highly regarded.  NO ONE WAS MORE HIGHLY REGARDED THAN LUCA. 

DeAndre Ayton looks to be a very good player going forward.  However the thought of a Luca-Devin back court must give one pause. 

[kiidcarter8]

The second coming of Larry Bird and you're going to split hairs and play The Contrarian Card.



Ludicrous

[kiidcarter8]

The safe pick for Portland was PERKINS or BARKLEY, not Jordan

The team to be most criticized is INDIANA, who sent the Bowie (Jordan) pick to Portland for Tom Owens.

[kiidcarter8]

Would you, YOU, pass on Anthony Edwards if Ball is off the board?  Simply because we ALREADY have RJ.



I have always seen Barrett as a 3.

[Yankguy1]

Though it's hard to argue against picking  Hakeem, one might argue that Jordan/Sampson might have in the end been more successful than Hakeem/Sampson. Sampson, though he was agile and could run and shoot, wasn't a forward and all his injuries started happening (they might have anyway) when he moved there.

[kiidcarter8]

Jordan didnt rate statistically as the first pick coming out of school.

[lesterluv]

The second coming of Larry Bird and you're going to split hairs and play The Contrarian Card.



Ludicrous

SEZ the man who said "let's get together in Tulsa and Florida and Arizona and spit on each other"

And then everybody got covid as it swept through those three places and thousands died and even buttfuckstoopid's mentor backtracked as fast as he could and called everything off.

And then the man shut the fuck up cause even he realized what a fucking moron he was.

Not ludicrous in the least.....heh

[bodiddley]

Luka hasnt won anything

Except ROY.

KZ made 2nd team All-Bubble; Luke 1st

[kiidcarter8]

.427/.327/.713 as a rookie

3 pt % went down this year

[lesterluv]

.427/.327/.713 as a rookie

3 pt % went down this year

lmao you don't say. hmm..I guess that percentage drop outweighs being the only player in NBA history with over 20 triple-doubles at age 21 or younger

So who ya gonna trust, a shit-spewing coward with an IQ of 20 or Doc & Rick Carlisle

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904822-doc-rivers-praises-luka-doncic-as-a-blend-of-larry-bird-and-jason-kidd
https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1292307476910493696


I'll take the latter duo + add Chip to make it a power trio....heh