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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12885 on: August 16, 2020, 05:38:00 PM »

Could Luka be more efficient?
Did his crunchtime magic fade this year?
Sure to both.

But Doncic just completed a 29 / 9 / 9 season with a PER of 27.65.
That would be 6th in scoring, 3rd in assists and PER, 17 in boards.
Wasn't too far from a 30 point triple-double season.

I like how kiid only posts Luka's rook shooting %'s, noting the one that dropped this year, ignoring that his FG% rose nicely to a healthy 46.3% and he upped his FT% to 75.8%.  Doncic also got to the line 9.2 times a game.  4th in the League. 

Luka shot 57.4% on 2 pointers, which is amazing.  But he tends to get layups or fouled and makes midrange shots well.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12886 on: August 16, 2020, 05:38:19 PM »

The second coming of Larry Bird and you're going to split hairs and play The Contrarian Card.



Ludicrous

Heh. 

I knew that would trigger your gag reflex. 

Gee, a walking triple double, a big wing who can facilitate, get to the rack, shoot from the parking lot, bang the boards and make his teammates better? 

HehHeh.  Yeah....LUDICROUS. 

We all look forward to your next portrait of Jimmer Freddette as the successor to Jerry West. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12887 on: August 16, 2020, 05:45:08 PM »

Could Luka be more efficient?
Did his crunchtime magic fade this year?
Sure to both.

But Doncic just completed a 29 / 9 / 9 season with a PER of 27.65.
That would be 6th in scoring, 3rd in assists and PER, 17 in boards.
Wasn't too far from a 30 point triple-double season.

I like how kiid only posts Luka's rook shooting %'s, noting the one that dropped this year, ignoring that his FG% rose nicely to a healthy 46.3% and he upped his FT% to 75.8%.  Doncic also got to the line 9.2 times a game.  4th in the League. 

Luka shot 57.4% on 2 pointers, which is amazing.  But he tends to get layups or fouled and makes midrange shots well.

Watching Luka in the bubble was a startling experience, like when Bobby Orr first hit the ice for the Bruins back in my youth. 

The level of command and maturity being off the fucking grid. 

Luka is still very young, and as I have been wont to point out, often presses the issue and forces things, but probably because in his experience he can make magical things happen. 

As he is surrounded by better and better players, as he matures, as he matures into Carlisle's system...

MY GOD. 

The kid has barely scratched the surface and he is already a walking triple double. 

Plus, he has an edge to go with his phyiscal gifts and hoops skills. 

So, the second coming of Larry Bird is ludicrous? 

How about the second coming of Oscar Robertson? 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12888 on: August 16, 2020, 05:51:16 PM »

12 straigh years of 47% shooting
14 straight of 80+ from the line

That Oscar?

Luka is a great player

I'll leave it at that.

fuck - Isiah Thomas was recently listed outside the top 30 all time - and you want Doncic up with Bird and Robertson?

Major heh.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12889 on: August 16, 2020, 06:01:38 PM »

It's a different era.  Guys shooting lots of 3's are gonna have a lower FG%.
Luka's eFG% last two year 50% and 53%
(Luka's 2pt FG% 50% and 57%).

Luka is even more of a showman than Larry Bird.
And sometimes that hurts Doncic's play.
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« Reply #12890 on: August 17, 2020, 12:20:07 AM »

It's a different era.  Guys shooting lots of 3's are gonna have a lower FG%.
Luka's eFG% last two year 50% and 53%
(Luka's 2pt FG% 50% and 57%).

Luka is even more of a showman than Larry Bird.
And sometimes that hurts Doncic's play.

Same thing with Trae Young. 

Still, that is deeply embedded in their recombinant DNA. 

That is what defines their potential greatness. 

There was a Knicks-Hawks game last year, where the Knicks, if not neutralizing Young, were controlling him, and Trae was forcing the action when it seemed as if it wasn't his night.

Then in the fourth quarter, MY GOD.  He took over, and was unstoppable. 

Forcing the action and fucking up is part of their growth curve. 

Going into 2018, I had the hots for LD, Trae and Jaren Jackson...and Michael Porter, who seemed worth putting on ice for a season, not unlike KP, seeming as we were in Tank Mode Zion.  Given our draft slot, Mikal Bridges was my man, 3 & D with a trey, but Kevin Knox still looks to have serious upside: Porter, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander upside?  We shall see, and it seems that the hiring of Kenny Payne has as much to do with nurturing Knox and Randle, in lieu of giving up too early, buying dear and selling cheap. 

Anyway, I'll take LD  & TY's faux pas any day of the week.  Lillard anyone?  Sometimes you need someone who believes that they can amp it up at any moment. 

Anyway, the lottery beckons, and I have odd feeling, that we are going to be Top 3. 

Bu then, I am an insufferable pompom gurl. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12891 on: August 17, 2020, 02:10:14 PM »

I didn't see the Jazz going anywhere without Bogdanovich.  Now that Conley has debubbled, they should go meekly.

They need more depth.
I like Tony Bradley and Niang can pop some 3's.  But are they ready for playoff hoops?  No Conley means a lot more Clarkson chucking and Muddy courttime.  We;ll see how that goes...
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« Reply #12892 on: August 17, 2020, 03:46:35 PM »

I never heard of Juwan Morgan before.
Only played 130 NBA minutes (47 in last 2 games).
And he got playoff G1 start.
Been rebounding well.
Crazy +17 (next highest Ute +4).


Dwaynewade Mitchell is a nasty mofo.
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« Reply #12893 on: August 17, 2020, 04:27:19 PM »

I didn't get Jingles on Murray down the stretch(es).
Jamaal knew he could get his shot off and once a good shooter gets his confidence rolling he can be tough to stop.  Why not Royce on Murray?  DEN went with Jer Grant on Mitchell.  Also, could have mixed it up and tried rook Juwan Morgan a play or to as well.  Murray just killed Joe "Half step late" Ingles.  Quinn the Mighty Snyder gets the blame for that L.

Jingles pops 3's and always finds the open outside shooter.  But he's not a perimeter defender.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12894 on: August 17, 2020, 07:08:59 PM »

Philly-Boston

Battle of the clown teams that passed on Fultz/Ball
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« Reply #12895 on: August 17, 2020, 07:28:44 PM »

Philly-Boston

Battle of the clown teams that passed on Fultz/Ball

Here We Go AGAIN. 

Let's all squeeze Kiid's funny nose.  HONK HONK Honkie. 

As Tatum nails yet another three and Kemba drives to the paint, AND ONE. 

PS: Apros Pos of nothing, but seeing as how you fixated on the odd stat to take a contrarian posture on Luka, and are relentlessly negative about our French Puppy, while both MF and LB made nice progress this past season, Fultz was 36-135 from trey for a .267%, while Ball was 43-76 from he charity stripe for a .566%. 

PPS: Curiously enough, Frank Ntilikina was 44-137 from trey, for a .321%, and 51-59 from the charity stripe for a .864%. In the interest of full disclosure, Frank's overall FG% was a glistening .393%, while Lonzo's was .403% and MF was .465%.  So room for growth all around, no? 

PPPS: Meanwhile Clown Of Renown Jayson Tatum was 189-469 from trey for a .403% and 254-313 for an .812%, tallying 24.6 ppg, 7.3 boards 3.2 assists and 1.4 steals. 

PPPPS: GO FIGURE, eh, numb nutz. 

PPPPPS: Heh

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12896 on: August 17, 2020, 07:45:05 PM »

Here We Go AGAIN.

As Tatum nails yet another three and Kemba drives to the paint, AND ON



2 solid teams, surely.
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« Reply #12897 on: August 17, 2020, 07:52:53 PM »

Here We Go AGAIN.

As Tatum nails yet another three and Kemba drives to the paint, AND ON



2 solid teams, surely.

Shirley

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Rock on, Kiid. 
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« Reply #12898 on: August 17, 2020, 08:22:22 PM »

MATISSE THYBULE with the clamps on Tatum.

Philly with upper hand.

Kemba 4 for 12

Tatum zero assists
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« Reply #12899 on: August 17, 2020, 09:02:53 PM »

Do you watch the games?
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