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chipstern

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A Face In The Crowd
« Reply #12960 on: August 21, 2020, 07:29:03 AM »

The Look On Leon Rose's Face Was PRECIOUS. 

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« Reply #12961 on: August 21, 2020, 08:06:37 AM »

Truthfully, what's not to like?  Any of them will be fine additions. None are plug  and play but that's alright.


Thats why you trade up.

But who wants to deal down?
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« Reply #12962 on: August 21, 2020, 08:09:02 AM »

Interesting draft where clear cut franchise players such as Williamson and, to a lesser extent, Morant, are, well, not so clear cut. 

Wolves at #1? Warriors at #2, Hornets at #3? 

I've seen Ball and Edwards and Wiseman projections and think that ishow the Top 3 falls. 

I think a lot of trade options will be explored for teams picking 1-14. 

Right now?

I see the Wolves going with Edwards, but how does GS assess their area of greatest need in the here and now or going forward,  Curry is 31.  Thompson is 30.  Green is 29. 

Hornets are PRAYING Wiseman falls to them.  But I reckon Ball would prove a decent consolation prize. 

From #4-through-#10 is far less clear cut. 

Last year, Jaxson Hayes, Rai Hachimura, and Cam Reddish fell to 8-9-10. 

As for our Knucks this year? 

I agree with the Forum Consensus, that if we keep the pick, someone talented will fall to us. 

My one caveat is that I hope, I pray, we do not make a reach at #8 for a PG.  Rather, pick the best talent on the board.  I believe there is a good chance one of talented second tier PGs will fall to us at #27. 

Offensively, Deni Avdija, and Defensively, Precious Achiuwa, are of interest.  But hey, what do I know? 


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Trading
« Reply #12963 on: August 21, 2020, 08:11:35 AM »

I fail to see how we trade up, least ways, the price of the Top 3 would seem...daunting. 

Not sure how much our #27 pick or one of the Dallas picks could be so leveraged. 

Trading down seems more tenable. 

I am inclined to stay at #8 and get the best available talent. 

https://www.nbadraft.net/2020-extended-nba-mock-draft-2-0/

This NBADraft.Net projection has Deni Avdija falling to us at #8...not the shooter Gallinari is, but purportedly a better all-around skill set.

Who the fuck knows.  The universe is on fire.  Whatever.  Whoever.  I'll settle for a vaccine, an NBA season, and Trump on Rikers Island.     
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12964 on: August 21, 2020, 08:58:36 AM »

I fail to see how we trade up, least ways, the price of the Top 3 would seem...daunting.



Yet when I ask if we should offer Knox and/or Frank in a trade up....



crickets.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12965 on: August 21, 2020, 09:23:08 AM »

Avdija is the biggest riser in draft analysis

And suddenly he falls to 8?

Funny.

I'll take it - surely - but won't nearly expect it.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12966 on: August 21, 2020, 09:28:25 AM »

I fail to see how we trade up, least ways, the price of the Top 3 would seem...daunting.



Yet when I ask if we should offer Knox and/or Frank in a trade up....



crickets.

Maybe because they are so young, and it seems, based on incomplete evidence, a little early to pull the plug, when a new coaching staff and a fresh look awaits.  And really, outside of the Top 3, who has significantly more upside than Knox AND Ntilikina?  Both?  You would.  I would not.   Ball being the prize, right?  Seriously.  Do you think Minny or GS or Charlotte bite? 
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« Reply #12967 on: August 21, 2020, 09:29:28 AM »

NBAdraft.net guys are a joke

2 weeks back they have DET taking Avdija at 5 - and today its Haliburton?

And with no explanation why they changed it.
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« Reply #12968 on: August 21, 2020, 09:31:28 AM »

I fail to see how we trade up, least ways, the price of the Top 3 would seem...daunting.



Yet when I ask if we should offer Knox and/or Frank in a trade up....



crickets.

Maybe because they are so young, and it seems, based on incomplete evidence, a little early to pull the plug, when a new coaching staff and a fresh look awaits.  And really, outside of the Top 3, who has significantly more upside than Knox AND Ntilikina?  Both?  You would.  I would not.   Ball being the prize, right?  Seriously.  Do you think Minny or GS or Charlotte bite?

I deal Knox to get to top 4.

You do - or you don't?
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« Reply #12969 on: August 21, 2020, 09:33:09 AM »

at the same time I am not giving up on Knox -

and I also realize he can be used in a later deal.

Draft is important

Free agency and deals for current players more so.
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« Reply #12970 on: August 21, 2020, 09:56:54 AM »

at the same time I am not giving up on Knox -

and I also realize he can be used in a later deal.

Draft is important

Free agency and deals for current players more so.

Fair enough. 

I just happen to think that while obviously no one other than Mitchell and RJ are likely untouchable, my sense of things is that Thibs will want to take a long look at everyone.  Frank because of his defense, even if his long term profile is as a sixth man. 

God knows we need shooters.  And Knox has shown promise there.  Consistency?  Not yet.  Still, seems premature to include him in any fire sales. 

PG?

Not sure Van Vleet is on the market, or worth the price, or gives you the same level of productivity outside the Kyle Lowry bubble. 

In any event, Rose sure has his work cut out for him. 

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« Reply #12971 on: August 21, 2020, 10:16:04 AM »

8. Knicks: Precious Achiuwa, SF/PF, Memphis

With Knicks fans calling for Cole Anthony, team president Leon Rose pulls a stunner, selecting a different local, the 6-foot-9 Bronx native, an immediate difference-maker around the basket and on the defensive end. The lone college freshman to average a double-double, Achiuwa can team with Frank Ntilikina and Mitchell Robinson to give Tom Thibodeau the makings of a vastly improved defensive unit.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12972 on: August 21, 2020, 10:22:09 AM »

God knows we need shooters.  And Knox has shown promise there.  Consistency?  Not yet.  Still, seems premature to include him in any fire sales.



Deal is for VALUE
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« Reply #12973 on: August 21, 2020, 10:23:27 AM »

God knows we need shooters.  And Knox has shown promise there.  Consistency?  Not yet.  Still, seems premature to include him in any fire sales.



Deal is for VALUE

Should VALUE Manifest? 

Sure. 

But I fear our tradition buy dear, sell cheap. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #12974 on: August 21, 2020, 10:25:11 AM »

Free agent/potential free agent guards


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/guard/
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