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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14491 on: November 19, 2020, 08:50:45 PM »

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« Reply #14492 on: November 19, 2020, 09:09:53 PM »

What happens when you turn down a $34 million PLAYER OPTION.


You agree at 3-75/90 to 4/100-110 somewhere else (and likely WEST of Boston - Danny doesnt want him in Indiana either)

Can we agree in these contentious times that EAST of Boston is an unlikely landing spot for Gordo?

IMO Ainge would like to max his possible return re GH.

So lets look at 3 possible outcomes.

A-Gordo signs as a FA (Knicks or Hawks or another team that has cap space to handle GH) there is no return coming back to the Celts,

B-S&T with Indy helps a EC competitor but it provides a return (players or a pick or both) and preserves the Celts ability to eventually replace Gordo with another quality player.

C-The Celts could resign Gordo to a LT deal in the 4-110ish neighborhood. 

IMO without details re the return coming back, C and then B are the more preferable than A.

From what I understand (little) Gordo would not be adverse to playing in hometown Indy for a play-off team. 
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« Reply #14493 on: November 19, 2020, 10:02:10 PM »

4)  sign and trade to a WEST team
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« Reply #14494 on: November 19, 2020, 10:12:16 PM »

4)  sign and trade to a WEST team

Who? 

GS cupboard is bare save for Wiggins. 

Lakers have that LeBron fellow.

Cliipers have Kawhi. 

San Antonio have DeMar? 

Dallas?  Who can they offer? 

Houston?  Westbrook?  Giggle. 

OKC?  Not feeling it.  They are in long terms rebuild mode. 

Phoenix.  CP3.  Shopping season over. 

Pelicans?  Have Brandon Ingram. 

Minnesota?  Jared Culver would be a stout return. 

Milwaukee?  Hmmm, Bogdonavich trade just collapsed, and they are being investigated for tampering.  But might have some pieces.  Don't see the money working out as they are all in the Greek. 

Atlanta?  Have a solid 3&D, what's his name. 

Knicks have Knox.  Are they all in on the kid? 

Indiana would seem to be S&T or FA country. 

Hayward holding all the cards.  Ainge would appear to be between a rock and a hard place.  If Turner was in play, should have jumped. 
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« Reply #14495 on: November 19, 2020, 10:12:49 PM »

Not really liking Indiana giving up Turner
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« Reply #14496 on: November 19, 2020, 10:16:38 PM »

Atlanta really has just three players that are top calibre

Hayward certainly a huge upgrade on all of Hunter, Huerter and Reddish

Collins actually fits, as does Capela, but Clint likely staying put and Collins too good for this deal.
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« Reply #14497 on: November 19, 2020, 10:17:34 PM »

Not really liking Indiana giving up Turner

I think it is a dumb move, too, but apparently he has been in play for a while. 

God knows why. 

Solid center down low, and can stretch the floor with his shot. 

Ostensibly does not match up so well with Sabonis, which is....ODD. 

Speaking of dumb moves, God bless James Harden, and all time great. 

But if the Nyets give up Allen, LaVert, Dimwiddie and multiple #1s, just so Harden can make Kyrie paranoid, they are delusional. 

If they are in need of some cap space parking lot, they might inquire of the Knicks.  Chuckle.  Perhaps Dimwiddie of Durant can make the call to Dolan.   
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« Reply #14498 on: November 19, 2020, 10:20:52 PM »

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« Reply #14499 on: November 19, 2020, 10:23:19 PM »

No doubt if Indy dealt Myles T they would add a big from elsewhere - but starting Domatis at the five and playing smaller fits new leaguewide norm.
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« Reply #14500 on: November 19, 2020, 10:36:01 PM »

No doubt if Indy dealt Myles T they would add a big from elsewhere - but starting Domatis at the five and playing smaller fits new leaguewide norm.

By that logic, Julius Randle could get significant minutes at the 5, with Obi at the 4 and Knox at the 3 in some alignments. 

Sam Presti exacted a #1 from GS for Kelly, Top 20 protected.  If Warriors finish below 21-30, Thunder get two #2 picks. 
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« Reply #14501 on: November 19, 2020, 10:39:11 PM »

By that logic, Julius Randle could get significant minutes at the 5, with Obi at the 4 and Knox at the 3 in some alignments.


Yes, of course

Thus I thought the Randle vs Toppin comment earlier was silly

Not bullish on Knox, but we'll see.
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« Reply #14502 on: November 19, 2020, 10:45:20 PM »

When Quickley gives us minutes at the 2, could be RJB at the 3
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« Reply #14503 on: November 20, 2020, 12:19:13 AM »

I’d throw a big offer at GH. JaMychal Green would be the next target down followed by Mo Harkless for another run. We need a vet to take matchups too quick for Randle and too big for Bullock.

I’d also look at adding Chris Dunn. He’s on an arc not dissimilar to Marcus Smart who wasn’t really a plus on the scoring end till this year. Real buy low potential there.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14504 on: November 20, 2020, 12:22:31 AM »

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Gordo may want a fresh start, but if he has the balls to turn down $34MM he must figure the market for him is pretty good, and more closer to $25-30, maybe he gets 4 years $110-$120.

Geez, anybody gonna pay him that much or for that long?
The max I'd consider is a 3/$75M.
And that's more than I'd want to pay.

Wonder if the Knix can get in the middle of this.
Sign Haywire as an RFA and then he's an asset we could keep or later flip.
We could certainly use an SF who can shoot, pass, handle.
The extra ballhandling would be most welcome.


I haven't understood IND believing Sabonis and Turner aren't a good pairing.  Both can play in/out.  Turner much better defending down low.
Two outstanding young Bigs.  Just make it work.

I'd sign Gordo and flip him for MyTurn (and figure things out later).
Of course that would work much better if we had just selected Avdija instead of Topping.  I miss Avdija.

Hope Top Dog works out, but I would have taken Avdija, TyH and Vassell ahead of ObiT.
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