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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14790 on: November 23, 2020, 04:35:47 PM »

KZ had minor meniscus surgery.
Expected to be ready around Jan 1.
So might just miss the first 2 weeks.
Barring any setbacks.
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« Reply #14791 on: November 23, 2020, 04:49:43 PM »

Cause KP never has any set backs. I’ve always thought Rik Smits arc was a serious likelihood for him.

Burks & Barrett gives you two 6’6” tall guys, at 215 & 220 respectively who can do all the guard things while putting up 15 points each. Bullock is never quite that productive, but will keep the chain of solid heady production going when one or the other goes to the bench. We’ve got quick defenders who spread the floor vertically and horizontally. If we can find a way to play fast and efficiently in the face of pressure, we could be pretty good.

I’m hoping we don’t blow this up and get to see most of this group on the floor.

If we do wind up blowing this up, my bet is that it would be to acquire John Wall.
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« Reply #14792 on: November 23, 2020, 05:09:04 PM »

By the way, I think Nerlens Noel believes he is coming here to compete for the starting C slot

Which of course is good.
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« Reply #14793 on: November 23, 2020, 05:29:08 PM »

Everyone should compete for every slot. That’s how we find our best combinations and that’s how our players up and down the pecking order get better.

This roster as constructed, minus Smith Jr or Evans, can get you 110 points a night playing a normal modern NBA offense. We have the talent to accomplish this, not easily but with steady work. That’s a little worse than league average in year 1, about 3 points better than we were last year. We should get there based on less lane clogging and more foot speed alone even if this group doesn’t improve its accuracy from deep. A similar improvement on the defensive end from the aforementioned foot speed and from Thibs actually being a pro at coaching NBA team defense, we should also be able to hold teams below 110 more often than we did last year when we allowed an average over 112.

Robinson Noel Barrett Burks Ntilikina seems like a group that could apply defensive pressure like we haven’t seen since Camby and Spree shared the floor.

There are no expectations for this group and not much in the way of limits either.

If Thibs and staff can unlock more efficient shooting out of Payton and/or Frank running the point, we could become a quick rising team.
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« Reply #14794 on: November 23, 2020, 05:32:23 PM »

I’m also not writing off Randle or looking to trade him at this point. I think he can shine a lot more on this roster than he did with our personnel and play style last year. We may very well feel we’ve lucked into a bargain when we pick up his option next year.

MPJ treatment for ObTop in year one, small roles from which to show out and extend.
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« Reply #14795 on: November 23, 2020, 07:46:07 PM »

Competition
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Your 2020-2021 Knicks Training Camp Scrum
« Reply #14796 on: November 23, 2020, 08:30:35 PM »



Centers [BIGS]: Mitchell Robinson, Nerlens Noels

Power Forward/Centers [BIGS]: Julius Randle, Obi Toppin, Omari Spellman

Small Forwards/Power Forwards [BIG WINGS]: Kevin Knox, Ignas Brazdeikis

Shooting Guards/Small Forwards [WINGS]: RJ Barrett, Reggie Bullock, Alec Burks, Jacob Evans

Point Guards/Combo Guards [COMBO GUARDS]: Austin Rivers, Elfrid Payton, Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith, Immaneul Quickley, Jared Harper [2-Way], Theo Pinson [2-Way], Myles Powell [Exhibit 10]

I count 19. 

Did we miss anyone? 

Using salary estimates for recently acquired players, the Knicks have $18.6 million in cap space, along with their $4.8 million Room Mid-Level Exception to use.



The Knicks need to spend another $7 million to get to the NBA floor.
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« Reply #14797 on: November 23, 2020, 09:00:57 PM »

Technically the Knicks can just split the 7million cross the members of the final roster.  So everyone gets an extra half a mil.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14798 on: November 23, 2020, 09:23:37 PM »

Big move hasn't been made yet
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Big Move?
« Reply #14799 on: November 23, 2020, 09:45:29 PM »

Do Tell?

Projections?
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« Reply #14800 on: November 23, 2020, 10:10:47 PM »

Just has to be bigger than Noel, Burks, Rivers, Spellman.

Much as I like those deals you would think Thibs is pushing Leon for something a bit juicier.
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« Reply #14801 on: November 23, 2020, 10:11:56 PM »

As of now some forum faves are not seeing much of the court
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« Reply #14802 on: November 23, 2020, 10:44:19 PM »

Just has to be bigger than Noel, Burks, Rivers, Spellman.

Much as I like those deals you would think Thibs is pushing Leon for something a bit juicier.

C: Noel
PF: Spellman
PF: Toppin
SF/SG: Burks
SG/PG: Rivers, Quickley

I count six. 

What is out there? 

A dynamic 3&D?

A point guard? 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14803 on: November 23, 2020, 11:01:07 PM »

For fun - check me on these names


Whiteside

Kaminsky

Korver

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« Reply #14804 on: November 23, 2020, 11:16:53 PM »

For fun - check me on these names

Whiteside

Kaminsky

Korver

K

Whiteside
[Noels]

Kaminsky
[Spellman]

Korver
[Burks]

Are they "better" than the players we got?

A case "could" be made. 

Better fits?

Mmmmmm....



Whiteside? 

He is 31.  Solid presence. 

One would SUSPECT, he WANTS starters minutes and to get paid. 

I mean, why haven't the Pistons inked him?

The Rockets just gave Cousins a non-guaranteed pact. 

Kings supposedly have interest. 

Would he be open to coming off the bench/platooning with Robinson? 

Kaminsky?

What upside would he present to the Knicks that checkmated Noels or Spellman? 

Korver?

Wonderful.  All time great sniper.  Astonishing 3-pt% [career .429]

Is he better than Bullock or Burks?

Damn right?

He is 39 years old. 

Alas.

Would be a nice addition to a contending team, like the Celtics, the Heat, the Clippers, the Raptors. 
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