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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

no way FVV comes without the walmart gift basket

heh

Bo - to have any credibilty whatsoever, should build it given AVDIJA as the #8 pick - and without Fred Van Vleet.

Now - what to do with 27 and 33......

And what trades to offer/ free agents to sign (and amount)

We have time to go through this if he'd like.

[kidcarter8]

Chip - Quickley and Rivers aren't point guards.

[lesterluv]

and then Luka Doncic forces a trade to the Knicks all because Leon listened to Bo and sent that Walmart gift basket, we do have to give up FVV however, who broke into tears because he had ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS wanted to be KNICK.

The NYFD was called to tear the jersey off him.

[bodiddley]

I would have steered far clear of Hayward.
I wasn't even sure I'd do $20M per for him.
But really he doesn't make too much sense for these Knix.

I like Jerami Grant but he's more scrappy and willing than highly talented.
I had touted him as a possible FA get, but he showed out in the playoffs and became too pricey, imo.  Nice piece, but at $20M?  $14M would have been good.

CP3 or Westbrook?
Not the kind of move I'd normally consider, but you squint and could see the value/benefits.
CP3 as a leader and mentor and culture setter.
Westbrook would be entertaining to watch, especially with RJB and Toppings as running mates.
Still seems like typical Knick move, get a big name late in his career without a good enough supporting cast.  Randle, Frank & Knox for Westbrook.  Er ...
I could do it (I think).

[chipstern]

Chip - Quickley and Rivers aren't point guards.

COMBO GUARDS

[facilitatorn]

Bullock + Dallas 2023 + a 2023 2nd rounder for Lonzo Ball?

Pels are over loaded at PG still and need shooting and wing defenders...

[kidcarter8]

yep

Big change to next year's finances, of course - as would Wall.


Who do you suppose that takes us out of for '21-'22 tht we have our eye on?  Just saying....well, lots of folks - is fine.   

RUSS for now AND then or a choice of "lots of folks", if they wil come, for just then (not this year).

Many teams' conundrum, truly.  But Knicks insistence on one year plus options deals would lead you to believe we want to keep that "lots of folks" option wide open.

Anyway - back to Avdija

Lets build it with Deni and Russ

So you have

Westbrook
Barrett
Avdija
4?
Robinson

as starters

Dennis, Bullock (I assume), Knox, Brazdekis, the 27 and the 33 pick

then scraps (Harper, Pinson, etc)


Now what?

[kidcarter8]

Chip - Quickley and Rivers aren't point guards.

COMBO GUARDS

Let me know when one of them is out there without Dennis, Frank or Elf.

[facilitatorn]

If the Pels won’t play, the Hornets might want to simply shed some salary. They have Rozier (expensive), Ball, Graham, and the Martin brother who can pass (along with the other one).

Without Rozier, the Hohos can live with Graham and Martin if Ball struggles out the gate.

Rozier for Dallas’ 2023 + a 2023 2nd rounder.

Brings us right to the cap.

[Kam]

I can agree with BO on Avidja over Toppin.  Toppin was my 3rd choice  (1.TyH 2. Avidja 3. Toppin 4. Vassell)

But then you can't assume FVV is leaving a contender for the chance to play with Avidja and run the Knicks.   That's a bridge too far.

You can't assume you're going to get Christian Wood because now you have FVV who is here because you have Avidja.  That's a bridge to outer space.

Oh and Gallinari sees all that and wants back in too.

Fantasyland.


Avidja vs. Toppin will be something to debate for years to come.   But that's it.   We draft Avidja and its likely the same exact team just with Avidja not Obi.

[lesterluv]

Kam, you, like so many others here, fully underestimate the power of THIS:


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Draizee-Heel-Shoe-Spa-Gift-Set-Rose-Scented-Bath-Essentials-Basket-With-Shower-Gel-Bubble-Bath-Body-Butter-Lotion-And-Soft-EVA-Puff-Luxurious-Home-Re/504545293

[lesterluv]

https://www.theraleighregister.com/fvvtheknickswere1choiceuntilobipick.html

[chipstern]

Bullock + Dallas 2023 + a 2023 2nd rounder for Lonzo Ball?

Pels are over loaded at PG still and need shooting and wing defenders...

Don't Bogart That Pax 3 My Brother 

[chipstern]

I would have steered far clear of Hayward.
I wasn't even sure I'd do $20M per for him.
But really he doesn't make too much sense for these Knix.

I like Jerami Grant but he's more scrappy and willing than highly talented.
I had touted him as a possible FA get, but he showed out in the playoffs and became too pricey, imo.  Nice piece, but at $20M?  $14M would have been good.

CP3 or Westbrook?
Not the kind of move I'd normally consider, but you squint and could see the value/benefits.
CP3 as a leader and mentor and culture setter.
Westbrook would be entertaining to watch, especially with RJB and Toppings as running mates.
Still seems like typical Knick move, get a big name late in his career without a good enough supporting cast.  Randle, Frank & Knox for Westbrook.  Er ...
I could do it (I think).

Please. 

[facilitatorn]

Bullock + Dallas 2023 + a 2023 2nd rounder for Lonzo Ball?

Pels are over loaded at PG still and need shooting and wing defenders...

Don't Bogart That Pax 3 My Brother 

There’s no name yet for what I’m bogarting (pandemic rules: puff, puff, give is currently antisocial behavior), but it sure tastes good and does the trick.

Let’s leave Lonzo aside.

Rozier for DSJ and a 2023 2nd rounder. Saves them money, builds their draft stock, and brings a maturing DSJ back home to NC. Saves them from getting a headache putting Terry behind Ball.

Personally I think we’re set at PG already.

However, a Rozier Frank Payton platoon would be a buzzsaw all damn game for opposing PGs. You know Thibs would love Rozier.