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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Batum waived by CHA and joining LAC.
He's a really smart all-around player, but injuries have crippled him.

I'm sure he's glad he didn't get dumped on to the Knix,
Though I assume the plan would have been to flip him to a payoff team before the deadline.

[bodiddley]

45 people a lot to manage.
They are going to interact with family, friends, strippers, etc.
And be in close contact with each other.

At least there are likely significantly fewer Trump supporters in the NBA, so that reduces the number of the defiantly reckless.  But young athletes are going to feel invincible and be careless at times.

I assume the NBA is taking notes on what the NFL is doing right/wrong.
But this still feels like a huge challenge for 72 games with lots of travel spread across 6 months.

[Kam]

There will most likely be a number of games postponed/re-scheduled because of clusters of positive results hitting teams from time to time.  The NBA will do a better job than the other sports leagues.  They are the gold standard.

[bodiddley]

Btw, the Zach Lowe article on FA winners/losers is on ESPN as both a paid and free article.
Free link: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/30386137/nba-free-agency-winners-losers-wild-week
I meant to post that Friday.
He thinks Knick fans should be pleased that we flipped Ed Davis for 2nd rounders.

In fairness to Leon Rose and the CAA team, they didn't have too much time to take over and evaluate the team, and so maybe went with a Do No Harm, and Pay off Your Clients approach, simply because they didn't know what to do yet.

I still think completely punting this off-season is a failure the Knix couldn't afford.
An incremental, adding one starter approach would have been better.
Give me $18M Bodanovich and a draft pick and filler vet journeyman, and I'd be on board.

[bodiddley]

Maybe the key is how soon will NBA players and fellow travelers get vaccinated?

If they can get inoculated in December or January, things should be relatively easy.
The NBA can stress that they need players to be ultra-careful for just one or two months, and that a failure could jeopardize the season and their salaries.  The vaccines need two shots 2 or 3 weeks apart.  So I would be surprised if everyone was all anti-bodied up any time before Feb 1, though it could happen. 

[chipstern]

Btw, the Zach Lowe article on FA winners/losers is on ESPN as both a paid and free article.
Free link: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/30386137/nba-free-agency-winners-losers-wild-week
I meant to post that Friday.
He thinks Knick fans should be pleased that we flipped Ed Davis for 2nd rounders.

In fairness to Leon Rose and the CAA team, they didn't have too much time to take over and evaluate the team, and so maybe went with a Do No Harm, and Pay off Your Clients approach, simply because they didn't know what to do yet.

I still think completely punting this off-season is a failure the Knix couldn't afford.
An incremental, adding one starter approach would have been better.
Give me $18M Bodanovich and a draft pick and filler vet journeyman, and I'd be on board.

a]  Rose converted Ed Davis into a 2023 second round pick from Utah, AND THEN FLIPPED HIM to Minny for a 2026 second rounder AND Jacob Evans and Omari Spellman.  I believe there might even be a third second rounder floating around in there as well. 

b] I like Bogdonavich...good wing.  He is 28.  Four seasons x $18 million.  Alec Burks is 29.  One season x $6 million.

Both 6'6" wings. 

Bogs is CLEARLY superior in your estimation, right, and you would have been pleased as punch to pencil him in as a starter, whereas if Burks wins starter minutes, that is an indictment of our pathetic team direction, right?  That IS what you said, right?  Don't want to misquote you. 

Let's take a peek at their 2019-2020 seasons, just for giggles. 

BB [Kings]: Over 29 Minutes, 15.1 ppg, 3.4 boards, 3.4 assists, 1.0 steals, .741 FT%, .372 3Pt%

AB [Warriors/Sixers]:  Over 26.6 Minutes, 15.0 ppg, 4.3 boards, 2.9 assists, 0.9 steals, .887 FT%, .385 3Pt%

So, is it possible that Rose & Company were gun shy about making a a pricy four year commitment to BB, tantamount to a tacit admission that Kevin Knox AND RJ Barrett were no longer priorities or capable of competing for starters' minutes going forward.  Burks can challenge both Kevin and RJ, and we can revisist our commitments to him in the summer of 2021 (likewise Bullock and Brazdeikis), while EVALUATING THE PROGRESS of KK and Ruth Bader Barrett. 

Competion?  Roster Depth?  Improved Long Range Shooting? 

But in your estimation, we punted on the offseason, as BB is a total stud and AB is a worthless dud. 

CHECK

[kidcarter8]

Batum waived by CHA and joining LAC.
He's a really smart all-around player, but injuries have crippled him.

I'm sure he's glad he didn't get dumped on to the Knix,
Though I assume the plan would have been to flip him to a payoff team before the deadline.

Was certainly an option.  Not sure CHA wanted any of our castoffs (Knox, Frank).  And Batum's effectiveness for us would have been tied mostly to court time -  .  Not sure there is much of that court time available given our roster.

[kidcarter8]

So, is it possible that Rose & Company were gun shy about making a a pricy four year commitment to BB, tantamount to a tacit admission that Kevin Knox AND RJ Barrett were no longer priorities or capable of competing for starters' minutes going forward.  Burks can challenge both Kevin and RJ, and we can revisist our commitments to him in the summer of 2021 (likewise Bullock and Brazdeikis), while EVALUATING THE PROGRESS of KK and Ruth Bader Barrett.


Not at all sure why you included Barrett in this passage

Burks as a guy we keep after this year?  Could be if he shines.  Knicks collecting options, which is a good thing - though I am not sure it ties in with Bogdanovic.  That may even have been a quick conversation, Knicks management with Bogdan's agent, that particular option evaporating quickly.

[kidcarter8]

Looking over some numbers - and adjusting a little from past thoughts -

My current Knicks ten man rotation

Payton/Smith
Barrett/Rivers
Burks/Bullock
Randle/Toppin
Robinson/Noel

(Frank, Quicks, Knox, Braz, Omari)

(Theo P, Evans, Powell)

Begs the thought - are we the only NBA team with just the one token white guy?

[chipstern]

Hey, BoDiddley.  Y'all too, LesterDawg. 



Not sure this'll raise or lower your expecations 'bout our Knicks going forward, but it might just....well, you tell me. 

Johnny Otis as TWO TIME SLIM, the "High Sheriff Sent From Hell...."  with his son Shuggie Otis, a precocious old soul, playing some profound slide guitar in this admixture of the hard blues and well, you tell me, 'cause Slim sure be signifying in the street jargon of the joint, certainly a precursor to gangsta rap, from long ago and not so damn far away. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Z_bYPT7F8 

"But I want you to excuse me for being so bold, but I'm the type of son-of-a-bitch that crawl over fifty good pussies to get to one fat boy's asshole..."   

DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELVES. 

[chipstern]

Looking over some numbers - and adjusting a little from past thoughts -

My current Knicks ten man rotation

Payton/Smith
Barrett/Rivers
Burks/Bullock
Randle/Toppin
Robinson/Noel

(Frank, Quicks, Knox, Braz, Omari)

(Theo P, Evans, Powell....and HARPER)

Begs the thought - are we the only NBA team with just the one token white guy?

Sorry homes, but Theo Pinson AND Jared Harper BOTH have TWO WAY CONTRACTS.

Jury out on Kidd-Gilschrist.   

[kidcarter8]

Hmmmm....

knew I forgot someone, but two?

Are we at TWENTY?

[chipstern]

Hmmmm....

knew I forgot someone, but two?

Are we at TWENTY?

Pinson, Powell, Evans, Harper [AND Kidd] makes 20. 

[bodiddley]

Might wonder why GS traded Alec Burks for some 2nd rounders.

Or why Burks played for 5 teams the last 2 years . . .

[chipstern]

Might wonder why GS traded Alec Burks for some 2nd rounders.

Or why Burks played for 5 teams the last 2 years . . .

There you go. 

Dawg told me he beat his wife.