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bankshot1

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15060 on: November 30, 2020, 11:15:58 AM »
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Thanks for posting  Two-time Slim that was some good stuff- I'm not sure what that bad ass got to do with the knicks, other than indirectly asking Bo D's question, "who do you love" and I know you love the knicks. But I loves me some slide guitar so sharp it cut through a driving Monday morning east coat rain.  Went well with my coffee, good pluck

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« Reply #15061 on: November 30, 2020, 11:42:02 AM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on November 30, 2020, 09:55:51 AM
That may even have been a quick conversation, Knicks management with Bogdan's agent, that particular option evaporating quickly.

Really? You think we had conversations with anyone? My understanding from Bo is that Leon didn't use his phone at all...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15062 on: November 30, 2020, 11:47:23 AM »
Might wonder why GS traded Alec Burks for some 2nd rounders.


In last place - thats what you do with vets on one year deals

Wanna ask why GS didn't sign him back at 6 mil?  That would make more sense as an angle.

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« Reply #15063 on: November 30, 2020, 11:51:35 AM »
Or why Burks played for 5 teams the last 2 years . . .


Burks didnt earn his keep at the Utah (big contract) salary level - though his floor game was quite solid (shooting was inconsistent)

The stroke has certainly improved quite nicely since.

Any leadership skills?  Don't know - but experience itself does count for something.
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« Reply #15064 on: November 30, 2020, 01:15:48 PM »
It will help the FO and Thibs as well,  that the bar for this season is so low - Vegas has the Knicks at 22.5 wins, worst in the NBA w/Cleveland.  So any improvement on that will have everyone blueskying it, and fair enough I guess.

In this regard it will allow Thibs to hopefully be true to himself, bury himself in the lab and see what diabolical avant garde experiments and,  more importantly,  results he can come up with...

so I guess time is on the Knicks side...but not the fans side, especially the old ones...

a few days ago my 21 yo son asked me  "do you ever think the Knicks will ever not totally suck?"  hard to say really - faith vs. reason ....
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« Reply #15065 on: November 30, 2020, 01:20:21 PM »
UTA, CLE, SAC, GS and PHI all in two seasons.
GSW and PHI both had him last year, both needed to fill out playoff rosters, and both took on pass on keeping Burks. 

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The stroke has certainly improved quite nicely since.

In the playoffs for PHI last year, Burks had a particularly brutal shooting series: 33% FG & 19% on 3's.  Jacked 49 shots in 95 minutes off the bench.
Which probably explains why he wasn't welcomed back to Philly.

He's shot between 40% FG and 41% FG each of the last 6 years.
A low percentage gunner who doesn't do much on defense.

That nicely improved stroke ...
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kidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15066 on: November 30, 2020, 01:23:07 PM »
 My bad in trusting you to analyze numbers

Peace.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15067 on: November 30, 2020, 01:29:08 PM »
Your bad in providing the usual unsupported BS.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15068 on: November 30, 2020, 01:33:39 PM »
I didn't provide the numbers.  This isn't the kids table.  Anyone on this board should be able to access Burks career figures.

Let me ask

Do you have Burks as solid addition, possible effective contributor or scrubbini waste?

Pick one.

(He won't.  He's incapable)
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« Reply #15069 on: November 30, 2020, 01:43:58 PM »
kiid: The stroke has certainly improved quite nicely since.

Reality: Burks shot between 40% FG and 41% FG each of the last 6 years.

Why post unsubstantiated crapola?
Why cry when someone actually posts the numbers to disprove your assertion?

I have no idea how Burks will be used.
Maybe he'll have a Rodney Hood breakout year out of nowhere.
Likely not.  POR has a nicely structured team, even Melo fit in well there.

I prefer Rivers, who has some ballhandling ability, and Bullox who plays better D and doesn't need many shots to Burks jacking routine.  I'd probably go with scrubbini, but should be better than Ellington (another player I never cared for).
Really, I'd prefer Dotson, and think Burks is around his level, able to show flashes but not consistency.  If Burks starts, we're in trouble, and he'll lead the team in FGA's unless Thibs directs otherwise.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15070 on: November 30, 2020, 01:53:57 PM »
Bingo - cant answer.  But acts the expert.

heh

I wont clue Bo in on the "evidence" on Burks improvement.  Someone else can if they wish.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15071 on: November 30, 2020, 02:04:24 PM »
Alec Burks earned 3.7 win shares last year between his stops in GS and Philly

The Knicks had exactly ONE player above this total.  That includes Morris.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15072 on: November 30, 2020, 03:22:56 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on November 30, 2020, 02:04:24 PM
Alec Burks earned 3.7 win shares last year between his stops in GS and Philly

The Knicks had exactly ONE player above this total.  That includes Morris.

I would think he was involved in more winning game opportunities as well. No?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15073 on: November 30, 2020, 04:54:10 PM »
Burks upped his 3 pt attempts, percentages, and consequently his number of 3s made per game in each of the last 3 years, upping his EFG in the process even as his usage increased.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15074 on: December 01, 2020, 12:10:44 AM »
Actually I gave a detailed answer on how I see Burks, compared him to other players we have, and even picked one of your three choices despite having very limited info on how he'll be used.   But still you choose to be an insufferable ass about it, as is often the case.

It's always amusing how kiid tells people what to do here, treats people as his secretary, and then offers up cryptic crap as though he's in on some secret.  It might surprise you that people see you very different than your self-image.

Simple Q anyone can have a crack at:
Why do you think 5 teams passed along/passed on Burks the past 2 years?
There must be a reason ...
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