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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15375 on: December 12, 2020, 05:23:59 PM »

Program note

LaMelo Ball's (w/ Vernon Carey) debut tonight in CHA   7 PM   NBA TV
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15376 on: December 12, 2020, 05:47:20 PM »

Let's hear the calls for Ol' Mike Miller today.

A good man - a pretty good coach.  We moved on wisely.

Mike is a damn good coach. He’ll be fine.

I wanted Thibs since Jeff left. I’m glad we got him now.

There are pluses and minuses to both Blake and Jules. I think of it as a wash and the play in my proposal was to get Bey, who has aspects of Crowder, Tucker, Og, and Ingles that would be great for us especially at the beginning of a rookie contract.

I’m fine with no deals happening. I think Thibs can coach up Randle to a higher level, whether that’s by getting through to Julius or by having the team save him from the situations that get him in trouble. It doesn’t seem like he’ll see the minutes and the load he did last year.

Noel and Obi are the exact same listed size. That seems right now we’ve seen them.

Burks and Bullock do not need extended run in the preseason. They know the drill. Burks is also coming off significant bubble work.

Hoping to get a glimpse of Iggy, Quickley, and either Omari or Skal next game.

Skal was waived I believe.

On his way to G League.

Andrew White too.  Signed him in the morning.  Waived him in the afternoon. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15377 on: December 12, 2020, 05:57:43 PM »

I hope Skal and Andy clear waivers.

You are correct, Chip, and Kiid has updated the situation. Young next?

I will lobby for a peek at Iggy, Omari and Manny then.

Come on Tom, give the people what they want!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15378 on: December 12, 2020, 08:09:29 PM »

Guys who Thibs was most satisfied with will get the biggest reductions in run next game.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15379 on: December 12, 2020, 08:24:43 PM »

Ball highlight reel pass (3/4 court off the inbounds football style) fools cameraman/director.

Layup being put in as they showed Toronto player that made last shot

Dont blink with this guy
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15380 on: December 12, 2020, 11:33:48 PM »

Thunder got a gem in AP. Okoro looking good for the Cavs as does Thon Maker.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15381 on: December 13, 2020, 04:49:39 AM »

Gonna be a good rook class.

Caught the first 1/3 of the Knick-DET game.

Jr. Smith just seemed like he didn't know what to do most of the time.
Had one cross court pass that was decisive.

Noel had a good nose for the ball. My fave Knick pickup.

ObiT was energetic.
Once maneuvered on the baseline and got by his man to stretch for a layup.  Nice bouncy move.  Twice used his athleticism to save a ball form going out (saved two possessions).  Defense was weak, but at least effort was there.  One ObiT semi-fronted a post Piston while holding him from going rimward.  Sort of a comically obvious holding foul.

Knox was usually decisive, with mixed results.
Julius looked slightly slimmed down.
Tried to take advantage of skinny Jer Grant guarding him, and mostly couldn't get much done.

Lowlights were FT's and 3's.  One transition play, RJB front-rimmed a wide open elbow 3.  Knix rebound - good all night -- and ball back to RJB who repeats the same shot with ... an airball.  Er ...  Two totally uncontested 3's.  And usually your 2nd attempt you can adjust from the prior miss. 

I saw something last week that said RJB is somewhere around the Top 95% for trying difficult passes.  They cited some measure, and the article actually posited that as a god thing, noting RJB was a willing passer.  But yeah, RJB does try to make tough passes, using narrow openings and tricky angles.  He need more patience.
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Overall, Randle, ObiT and RJB are all pretty aggressive offensive players.  Burks and Rivers not shy about gunning.  Contrasted with Mitch, Noel, and Franc who are more judicious/limited shooters.
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I thought it strange kiid called Blake a ball stopper.  As he's usually a good and willing passer.  And certainly in the 17 minutes I saw, Griffin was all Point Forwarding and passing all the time.  Set up his guys pretty well.  Occasionally tested Randle and ObiT, both known as iffy defenders.
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« Reply #15382 on: December 13, 2020, 09:05:05 AM »

Perhaps Griffin [3-11] and Grant [0-11] were coming out of an ICU. 

And is it just me, or did you only watch the first half.

After RJ went through his 0-6 clang fest, he was 7-10, mixing short jumpers with downhill drives, and a couple of nice passes.   
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« Reply #15383 on: December 13, 2020, 09:09:16 AM »

I watched the game agian last night, and Ntilikina more active and aggressive...D, a couple of nifty passes, and hit our first three. 

From the little acorn....
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« Reply #15384 on: December 13, 2020, 09:22:11 AM »

Isaac Okoro

33 minutes

18 points

6-9 FGs

2-4 from trey

1 board, 1 assist, 3 steals

PS: Thon Maker 10-10-3-2

PPS: In the intereset of full shouldacouldawoulda disclosure, Vassell was 12-6-3-1, 2-4 from trey.

PPPS: Theo Maledon 20-5-2, 2-4 trey. 

PPPPS: Pokusevski, 14-7-2, 4-8 from trey.

PPPPPS: Malachi Flynn, 9-2-4-1, 3-6 trey, a +35...LaMelo, 10 rebounds, 4 assists....

Bobby Portis, 7-15, 13 boards.

Langston Galloway, 17 points in 16 minutes, 4-7 trey

Damyean Dotson [Good for you kid] 5-6, 2-2 trey
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« Reply #15385 on: December 13, 2020, 09:36:45 AM »

Not sure if the two games with a day off in between spacing during preseason will stick during the regular season.  Problably not.

Still.

Be interesting to see Dwayne Casey's adjustments.  Pistons not quite as bad as we made them look. 

Be interesting to see if Tom Thibodeau's message translates two games in a row.  Knicks not quite as good as we looked against a commensurate second tier opponent. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15386 on: December 13, 2020, 09:41:02 AM »

Was hoping to see Immanuel Quickley... for close to 50 % 3 pt. shooter and a 1st round pick I thought he would get some time.
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« Reply #15387 on: December 13, 2020, 09:52:13 AM »

I watched the game agian last night, and Ntilikina more active and aggressive...D, a couple of nifty passes, and hit our first three. 

From the little acorn....

And the negative plays by FN?  A few while handling the ball.  Not a problem after just one game - its rust for everyone - but needs noting. 

I also liked that Frank drained a 3.  If he is going to be out there some, we need him to hit the open shot at decent rate.

Surely he did get Austin's minutes, no?  Not expecting Thibs to go 11 deep on Opening Night
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« Reply #15388 on: December 13, 2020, 09:54:31 AM »

Was hoping to see Immanuel Quickley... for close to 50 % 3 pt. shooter and a 1st round pick I thought he would get some time.

Loved Quickley's Meyers Leonard-type energy on the pine, often next to Obi.  And I think that was Powell the other side of him.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15389 on: December 13, 2020, 11:40:29 AM »

"Gonna be a good rook class"

Wiseman is on COVID list.
Edwards I am excited to see.
Haliburton I have on vid.  Will watch today, if he played.
Waiting for Celts telecast to check Pritch and Precious.
Ball looks like Maravich as a passer.
Obi is man ready to succeed ten years plus in league, given health
Williams of Bulls - looks great
Didn't see Okoro but he had the game winner
Excellent statline from Vassel
Got a look at Stewart and Bey (+) and Carey
Most impressive rook I actually saw thus far was MALACHI FLYNN (owned the court in his allotted time for TOR, hitting 4 of first 5 three pointers with effortless confident stroke).
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