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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15420 on: December 14, 2020, 02:32:56 PM »

Taking Hield of course meant taking his money on for next season.  That would be your negative talking point.

18.5/18,5/20.5 from '21-'22 thru '23-'24

But you would have your sniper.

Indeed.

Only one problem. 

He ain't available. 
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« Reply #15421 on: December 14, 2020, 02:35:00 PM »

The offer was open for us to accept, I thought.  Randle/Frank +.   Word is we scoffed at giving up what is likely to be a late #1.

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« Reply #15422 on: December 14, 2020, 02:47:10 PM »

The offer was open for us to accept.  Word is we scoffed at giving up what is likely to be a late #1.

What is your source? 

Tha would've engaged my attention. 

Not one of those Fake Trade Crap-A-Phons that pop up all the time on GOOGLE? 

Burks is no BH, but he looks to have been a good pick up.  At least one Knick who can flat out shoot, while we are waiting on Bullock, and for Obi and Quickley to find their range.  And Rivers too, knick on wood. 

PS: Watching Charlotte v Toronto on DVR.  Malachi Flynn is an alum of San Diego State, where my daughter and son in law matriculated.  Impressive stroke and competitive edge.  And watching Ball pass brings a smile to my face.  He has a gift.  Not a shot, but that should come over time.   
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15423 on: December 14, 2020, 02:58:06 PM »

Sorry - thought it was on the forum.  Scroll back, I guess.

There was this a month and a half ago - but no teeth to it

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/30/3-trade-packages-to-send-kings-buddy-hield-to-the-knicks/4/

Then this one

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2921176-nba-trade-rumors-buzz-on-russell-westbrook-john-wall-buddy-hield-and-knicks

Barrett was the interesting one in that Sac would have almost definitely bit and it would not have cost much if any draft capital

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« Reply #15424 on: December 14, 2020, 03:33:33 PM »

If we were going to redirect past draft capital, I’d rather have Maladon, Tillman, Woodard, Perry, or Reed on this team than Austin or DSJ. How many picks did we get for 33?
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« Reply #15425 on: December 14, 2020, 03:52:54 PM »

Sorry - thought it was on the forum.  Scroll back, I guess.

There was this a month and a half ago - but no teeth to it

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/30/3-trade-packages-to-send-kings-buddy-hield-to-the-knicks/4/

Then this one

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2921176-nba-trade-rumors-buzz-on-russell-westbrook-john-wall-buddy-hield-and-knicks

Barrett was the interesting one in that Sac would have almost definitely bit and it would not have cost much if any draft capital

These are not rumors. 

They are fantasies.  No different than things you or Fac or BoD would concoct for fun on this forum. 

Hey, I WAS fantasizing about Buddy as well as BB. 

Your John Wall fantasy was a projection.  And an interesting one. 

Chin music. 

Did any of us see Wall/Westbrook coming. 

For that matter, the NBA draft mocks. 

Everyone had the top 3. 

Did anyone have the next three? 

NOBODY. 

It's all fun, but ain't none of it real. 

None of these are scoops or even rumors. 

The blog equivalent of PornHub. 

Anyway, were Buddy to come available, I'd be kind of shocked.  Him and DeAron make a nice back court, and Haliborton can play with either of them. 
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« Reply #15426 on: December 14, 2020, 04:10:56 PM »

#33 went for the Piston’s second rounder in 2023. The Pistons could be good in 2023.
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« Reply #15427 on: December 14, 2020, 04:41:10 PM »

FLYNN is an interesting story - one recruits in all sports can go to school on

5 foot 1 as a high school freshman.

5-6 after sophomore year, then started getting some love on AAU circuit

Senior year only had three D1 offers after averaging 30 and growing to 5-10

Played at home area Wasjington State where he started both years but was not happy - why not? - they werent good.

So here is a kid who is getting his - can do what he wants as leader of his team as a soph - and in his home area on a full ride - but he enters the transfer portal - looking to WIN.

Has to sit a year after deciding on Fresno - and he says that was the biggest year for his developent as all he did was work, work, work on his game

Then conference player of the year as a redshirt junior and takes his move to pro ball rather than return for another season (looks like a pretty good move since draft was weaker

TORONTO sure did notice - and played it cool - as it sure wasnt telegraphed he was going to them.
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« Reply #15428 on: December 14, 2020, 04:42:26 PM »

PRAYING that over subsequent years we are not regretting taking IQ over Mssrs Flynn and Pritchard.
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« Reply #15429 on: December 14, 2020, 04:48:09 PM »

PRAYING that over subsequent years we are not regretting taking IQ over Mssrs Flynn and Pritchard.

Oh there's always *somebody*.
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« Reply #15430 on: December 14, 2020, 05:18:59 PM »

#33 went for the Piston’s second rounder in 2023. The Pistons could be good in 2023.

Supposedly it's a much better draft in 2023.
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« Reply #15431 on: December 14, 2020, 05:22:24 PM »

Well, you gotta identify that somebody.
Especially when you're at the bottom as we are.
It seemed clear there'd be some pretty good PG prospects in the 20's.
I'm sure we checked out Malachi who sounded interesting.


I'm in favor of trading Randle for Hield.
We need the shooting and it opens up minutes for Obi/Knox, even MKG.
But Hield isn't cheap and a DAL 1st would also be a cost.
I'd also check into Hield's attitude, as a losing team doesn't need a lockerroom malcontent.  And can he handle NYC (ie does he like to party a lot, or is he chill).
When Hield focuses, his defense is solid.
I think Hield's impact can be less than his numbers suggest, which is definitely true of Dr. Julius, but he's played on a pretty incoherent Kings team.
I like Hield better than Randle and he fits our team better.
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« Reply #15432 on: December 14, 2020, 05:27:41 PM »

Knicks are playing Detroit and Cleveland in the pre-season.  Not exactly beasts of the east.

In fact Knicks, Detroit, and Cleveland are picked to have the three worst records in the conference.

It's early, and we are rusty, but if we can't score more than 91 points against these teams then what does that portend?
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« Reply #15433 on: December 14, 2020, 05:37:13 PM »

Knicks are playing Detroit and Cleveland in the pre-season.  Not exactly beasts of the east.

In fact Knicks, Detroit, and Cleveland are picked to have the three worst records in the conference.

It's early, and we are rusty, but if we can't score more than 91 points against these teams then what does that portend?

It means holding the other team to under 90.
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« Reply #15434 on: December 14, 2020, 05:51:00 PM »

It means Thibs has barely put in a Defense, much less coached anyone up to play in it or tuned it to his personnel. The team is skating by on minimal offensive concepts, habits, and instincts. There’s no point in working out offense for guys who won’t be part of the D.

I hope to see a little evolution on both sides against the Cavs.

We’ll see what Tom really thinks on Festivus, after which he’ll surely receive some grievances.
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