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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

Knicks with 73.8 mil projected cap space, now that all NBA options ahve passed

This is at least double of all but 3 teams

SPURS - 47.9
THUNDER - 43.6
MAVERICKS - 34.5

So, who do you want after McCollum?

Trae Young while we are jacking off in public. 

GROW UP. 

That's HIS Fucking TEAM. 

[chipstern]

Astoundingly, through four games, the Knicks lead the NBA in 3-point shooting (45.9 percent) and 3-point defense. They have held opponents to 24.4 percent, including two excellent deep-shooting teams in the Bucks and Cavs.

Considering the NBA has become a 3-point-oriented league, that is a delicious sign.

The Knicks move the ball and chase down shooters on defense.

“Coach demands for every player to go out and play the right way,’’ Bullock said. “I think he let that be known from Day 1 in camp that we’re not going to force shots. We’re going to share the ball. As long as you’re playing hard on offense, on defense, moving the ball, every player on this team is going to get a chance.”

-- Marc Berman

[facilitatorn]

Hey if we are gonna reference Luka next to Bird, what of Trey Bien?

Steph Curry? 

Got a bit of Pistol Pete in him too.

I put Trey Young in the category of point guards who’d get schooled badly by Mark Price.

Trey shouldn’t feel bad. It’s a large category.

[bodiddley]

If we drafted a backup PF, when we needed an upgrade at the 1-2-3, it was a bad/dumb move.

Knic 3-Pt shooting isn't sustainable.  What's Randle at 69%?  Franc and Elf hitting?
Looked to me like MIL and CLE missed a lot of good 3 looks.
Osman was a train wreck on everything and he'd been hot the previous two games.
Nance had good corner ops, etc.
MIL was rather lazy and stuck with jacking 3's despite no one hitting.  And they didn't work the inside for easy shots or to suck in the D for open 3's.  I thought they let the Knix off the hook, by just chucking when cold.

I did think the Knix D disrupted the Cavs in the 3Q and didn't allow them to get into a rhythm or anybody to get hot.  When the Cavs moved the ball, they got pretty good looks.  And the Knix tend to leave guys open on the weak side corner that teams haven't exposed yet.

Yes, Knix certainly playing with more energy on D.
But I think we're very much in Small Sample Theater.

I wonder about the Cavs -- can you really start a pair of 6'1" guards?

ATL scored 141 v BKY (and lost).
Collins 30 & 10.
Bogdanx2 6-11 on 3's.

Gallo returned (sorta -- just 3 mins).  He'll get the Sol Hill minutes
And likely Bog or Gallo will start after a while.
Trae and Capela will work out PnR's and lobs -- they've played maybe 2 or 3 games together so far. Hawks also waiting to get Okongwu so they can keep teams under 140.

Gonna be very interesting when they have a full complement and figure out what works.  I'm guessing Bogs will start to help Trae with ball movement and vet poise. With a fine bench of Rondo - Huerter - Reddish - Gallo - Okongwu.

But I haven't see the New Hawks yet.

[facilitatorn]

Not sure we’re in dire need of that perimeter upgrade.

Mitch Noel Spellman
Randle Toppin Iggy
Bullock Knox
RJ Burks Frank
Payton Quickley Rivers DSJ

I think a very large rotation level big man and a guy who can reliably defend 3’s and 4’s while contributing offensively are more pressing. Ideally, Knox grows into someone who fits category 2. If not, we’ve got two cracks at somebodies in the first round of next year’s draft.

[Kam]

If we drafted a backup PF, when we needed an upgrade at the 1-2-3, it was a bad/dumb move.

Nice way to spin a hot start by Randle into a bad thing.

TyH was my pick for months but you gotta give Obi a chance.

[bodiddley]

Exactly the same thing I said before the games started and Randle got cooking.

Randle and ObiT are duplicative.  Both one-position scoring 4's with iffy D (can't really play C or SF).  Seems another self-inflicted draft error.

Maybe drafting ObiT lit a fire under Julius.  But that doesn't change the dynamics.

[chipstern]

If we drafted a backup PF, when we needed an upgrade at the 1-2-3, it was a bad/dumb move.

Nice way to spin a hot start by Randle into a bad thing.

TyH was my pick for months but you gotta give Obi a chance.

MINE, TOO. 

Be funny if Quickley pans out, eh? 

Obi, as well. 

Meanwhile, many of the dumb moves BoD has excoriated, seem to be working out. 

And let us not forget that as per his trenchant analysis, Thibs was a bad move by BoD's lights as well....him being the coach you hire three-four years into your rebuild don't you know, as the game has obviouly passed him by, as per the Wolves. 

ALAS. 

Perhaps Bo is just upset because Julius is mitigating against his trade scenarios and master plan for the Knicks. 

[bodiddley]

I was fine with the Thibs hire, because he's a good coach who preaches D.  But he does prioritize Win Now and vets over yute development.  So I would have gone with Atkinson instead.

Actually part of my plan was to feature Randle, build up his trade value and Sell High.  Doubt Knix will do that, but we should.  Then play the yute.

I don't think Quickly effects whether to draft TyH or not.

[Jerrya]

I like Thibs so far because of his substitution process.  Too many coaches go into a game with a preset sub pattern and number of minutes to give no matter what the situation is.  Thibs seems to go by feel of the game and play who hot and bench who's not and is not worried about pre-planned minutes or patterns.

[kidcarter8]

If we drafted a backup PF, when we needed an upgrade at the 1-2-3, it was a bad/dumb move.

Best way to say it is Rose drafted for his new team rather than to help his current team - thought being Randle would be gone in near future.  Pictured Toppin a top PF in this league and building block #1 (jury out on Barrett and Robinson)

But we will see what occurs

Did Leon properly assess the assets when he arrived on scene?

[kidcarter8]

Or - I will add - has the press horribly devalued Randle, never ever figuring he could be here for the long haul? 

Julius true shooting percentage fell to .538 a year ago but was ,600+ the 2 years prior.

None of what we see now is surprising to me.  He is a good SHOOTER so getting better at 3 point range as he ages is almost expected.  And the assists?  A player that has always had excellent court vision (6 triple doubles entering this year, a 10+ assist game every year except his first with NY)

[kidcarter8]

I like Thibs so far because of his substitution process.  Too many coaches go into a game with a preset sub pattern and number of minutes to give no matter what the situation is.  Thibs seems to go by feel of the game and play who hot and bench who's not and is not worried about pre-planned minutes or patterns.

Solid point

A full second unit is not always needed to play big minutes

[kidcarter8]

The Knicks move the ball and chase down shooters on defense.

Knikcks also effective giving the whammy horns from the bench as brick after brick goes up

I would expect a middling percentage from both offense and defensive 3 pt in the end (#12-18 in league)

[Kam]

Exactly the same thing I said before the games started and Randle got cooking.

Randle and ObiT are duplicative.  Both one-position scoring 4's with iffy D (can't really play C or SF).  Seems another self-inflicted draft error.

Maybe drafting ObiT lit a fire under Julius.  But that doesn't change the dynamics.

Before Randle got cooking it was seen as a pick for when Randle was traded or not signed/re-upped.  In that case that would've been a prudent PF pick.
Now that Randle looks like a keeper you should be happy we have a keeper at PF.

Either way we have a keeper at PF.   A good thing.