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« Reply #16005 on: January 02, 2021, 10:15:58 AM »

Wiseman to miss time, joining Okoro, Haliburton, Quickley and Toppin.

LaMelo rolls on impressively - Edwards and Avdija also solid.  Williams OK.  Havent checked in on Hayes.  Jalen Smith looked OK when I saw him but not sure he is getting Suns minutes
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« Reply #16006 on: January 02, 2021, 11:55:52 AM »

Knix never can seem to find a PG or a 3&D wing.


Took what they thought was BPA 4 years in a row.

TEAM DEFENDERS are what we want right now.  Early signs are positive.

3s are a different animal - but I like addition of Burks - and the Rivers delivery doesnt look too bad

Taking too many?  The entire league says NOPE.

We will watch - and at times suffer.

It's still very early. 

Duncan Robinson was 1-8 last night. 

I believe Rozier and Graham were a combined 2-21 [or something dire like that].

WHAT DOES THIS TELL US, CLASS?

I love DeAndre Hunter. 

But I love RJ as well. 

Not unlike the Toppin/DA conundrum. 

You can only draft one player. 

WouldaCouldaShoulda is pointless. 

If we'd taken Hunter, somewhere there would be recriminations as to how could we have passed on RJ. 

Point [GUARD] of fact, the Knicks have a history of seeing the player they REALLY wanted go one pick before.

Chuck Person
Steph Curry
Russell Westbrook
Jah Morant

Obi Toppin was a rare example of the player we'd targetted falling right in our laps. 

If he'd been gone at #8? 

Vassell's been playing short minutes, with a 3pt % around 41, and a 2pt around 31.  Did not play at all last night. 

Haliburton was showing well before he got hurt.

Avdija has been solid and versatile. 

Obi was 3-7 on treys before getting dinged. 

PS: Okongwu, the defensive center stalwart from USC, will be ready to play soon, making Atlanta a legit 10 Deep, with real depth at C/PF in Capela, Collins and Okongwu.  Agree with Bo for once....they are shaping up as a damn fun team...be more fun when Gallo and Rondo are ambulatory.  Sure do love Trae Young's mastery of the wrap around pass.  They really took it to the Nets last night. 
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« Reply #16007 on: January 02, 2021, 12:00:38 PM »

Haliburton roughly 50/50/90 in the early season.
Dinged his wrist, expected to miss 2 games.  Not exactly worrisome.

I missed this -- pretty impressive:
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Haliburton scored eight of his 13 points in the fourth quarter as the Sacramento Kings pulled away to beat Denver 125-115 on Tuesday, spoiling a record-setting night for Nuggets big man Nikola Jokic.

The 12th pick in this year's draft, Haliburton made several sleek plays and gave the Kings a needed lift down the stretch. Sacramento's rookie guard hit two of his three 3-pointers in the final 9½ minutes and added a steal and fast-break layup during an 11-0 run that put the Kings ahead 120-108.

"Tyrese continues to impress," Kings coach Luke Walton said. "He hit some big shots. He had some big-time playmaking for us. He was a plus-20 on the night. He's one of those players, you feel confident when the ball's in his hand."

Haliburton played the entire fourth quarter, when he also had five of his six assists.

"I was just proud of our team being a young team playing against a team like that with experience," Haliburton said. "We could easily have folded after a bad third quarter like that. We got a little complacent. We thought we were really going to open it up in the second half."

The guy just looks like a player. 
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« Reply #16008 on: January 02, 2021, 12:54:10 PM »

RJ has got to be hitting those night sessions. Quite a few of our guys do, and they need to keep it up well past the first game where they actually hit some shots again.

Barrett losing his focus on the iron.  Its fairly obvious.  Some scorers like to watch the flight of the ball.

I would like to see Quick, Burks, Knox and Randle out there with him. Will make a world of difference.  His strength is going to the basket...some good outside shooters might open up some lanes for him to take the ball to the rim.
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« Reply #16009 on: January 02, 2021, 01:20:56 PM »

Haliburton roughly 50/50/90 in the early season.
Dinged his wrist, expected to miss 2 games.  Not exactly worrisome.

I missed this -- pretty impressive:
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Haliburton scored eight of his 13 points in the fourth quarter as the Sacramento Kings pulled away to beat Denver 125-115 on Tuesday, spoiling a record-setting night for Nuggets big man Nikola Jokic.

The 12th pick in this year's draft, Haliburton made several sleek plays and gave the Kings a needed lift down the stretch. Sacramento's rookie guard hit two of his three 3-pointers in the final 9½ minutes and added a steal and fast-break layup during an 11-0 run that put the Kings ahead 120-108.

"Tyrese continues to impress," Kings coach Luke Walton said. "He hit some big shots. He had some big-time playmaking for us. He was a plus-20 on the night. He's one of those players, you feel confident when the ball's in his hand."

Haliburton played the entire fourth quarter, when he also had five of his six assists.

"I was just proud of our team being a young team playing against a team like that with experience," Haliburton said. "We could easily have folded after a bad third quarter like that. We got a little complacent. We thought we were really going to open it up in the second half."

The guy just looks like a player.

Looked like a player when he was my choice for the #8 pick.  Kam's too as I recall. 

Never expected either Obi or Dev to be there at #8. 

Was never clear why the Knicks coaches and brass seemed to dismiss him.  Can shoot, facilitate and defend, and has nice length at 6'5" 

Rap was that he had funny mechanics on his shot and was not super athletic

I am down with Obi and we ended up with Quickley, so all is not lost. 

I really hope he gets to play against doppleganger Trae Young on Monday, and so he can see how far he has to go to even hint at the level of play. 
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« Reply #16010 on: January 02, 2021, 02:29:42 PM »

Surprised Spurs took Vassell ahead of Ty H.
Haliburton at #12 is going to look like a mistake.

Real good interesting draft though.


Sabonis leads IND in Points, Boards, Assists.
Didn't understand why OKC didn't play him more.
Nor why there's been talk of moving either Sabonis or Turner.
Most teams would kill to have such a frontcourt.
Has always seemed a fine Off/Def combo to me.

IND shooting 60% on 2's, but just 33% on 3's.
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« Reply #16011 on: January 02, 2021, 03:01:04 PM »

I like drafting sophomores who make prodigious leaps between year 1 & year 2. You get more fundamental play than you do from a freshman typically, good chance of work ethic, and a growth trajectory to support confidence. I feel like those guys either pop or figure out a role more readily than freshmen or upperclassmen, though that might be observational bias.
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« Reply #16012 on: January 02, 2021, 05:13:17 PM »

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30638260/paul-westphal-member-naismith-memorial-basketball-hall-fame-dies-age-70

Paul Westphal, a Hall of Fame guard who was a five-time All-Star and a three-time All-NBA first-team selection, has died at the age of 70, the Phoenix Suns announced Saturday.

Westphal had been diagnosed with brain cancer in August 2020.



Red Auerbach is often lauded as stealing other NBA GMs blind, and the examples are too numerous to mention, but one trade I think Red might have rethought was the Westphal for the Phoenix Sun's Charlie Scott trade after the '75 season. As i remember there was some concern over his court quickness and whether he would be the next Celt's star to emerge. While the Celts won a championship with Scott in '76 (ironically against the Suns-I was lucky to see the classic 3OT game 5 of that series) Westphal turned into a star, one of the NBAs best guards over the next several years, a solid 20 pt 5 asst guy, and a Hall of Famer on and off the court.

RIP Mr Westphal
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« Reply #16013 on: January 02, 2021, 05:38:09 PM »

Rutgers lost a close one today at home to Iowa who are the conference favorites ..  but held them far below their season average in points.

Rutgers has a very good defense but struggle to hit FTs at a 64% clip.  They have not fielded a full healthy squad yet all season.

Ron Harper Jr. suffered an ankle injury and missed a game and this was his first game back.

Rutgers needs to fix their free throw woes.  With their defense, size, and shot-making they could be dangerous team in march.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16014 on: January 02, 2021, 06:07:18 PM »

Surprised Spurs took Vassell ahead of Ty H.
Haliburton at #12 is going to look like a mistake.

Real good interesting draft though.


Sabonis leads IND in Points, Boards, Assists.
Didn't understand why OKC didn't play him more.
Nor why there's been talk of moving either Sabonis or Turner.
Most teams would kill to have such a frontcourt.
Has always seemed a fine Off/Def combo to me.

IND shooting 60% on 2's, but just 33% on 3's.

Turner/Sabonis is a juggernaut. 

Sabonis and Olidiapo for Paul George. 

A gift which kkeeps giving. 
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« Reply #16015 on: January 02, 2021, 07:52:55 PM »

Haliburton is non spectacular.  A better Frank.  High floor, I guess.

Ball was our target.  No real telling who was second

Turned game on to see the usual Dougie and TJ show.
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« Reply #16016 on: January 02, 2021, 07:59:23 PM »

Surprised Spurs took Vassell ahead of Ty H.
Haliburton at #12 is going to look like a mistake.

Real good interesting draft though.


Sabonis leads IND in Points, Boards, Assists.
Didn't understand why OKC didn't play him more.
Nor why there's been talk of moving either Sabonis or Turner.
Most teams would kill to have such a frontcourt.
Has always seemed a fine Off/Def combo to me.

IND shooting 60% on 2's, but just 33% on 3's.

Turner/Sabonis is a juggernaut. 

Sabonis and Olidiapo for Paul George. 

A gift which kkeeps giving.

Sure.  But not really if they never win the East.
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« Reply #16017 on: January 02, 2021, 08:03:44 PM »

By the way I have seen ZERO talk of Sabonis being dealt.  And Turner only for Hayward.
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« Reply #16018 on: January 02, 2021, 09:13:57 PM »

Rivers can play a little

Heh

Nice win if we get it
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« Reply #16019 on: January 02, 2021, 09:26:42 PM »

I'm revising my win prediction to 30 wins.

What a game!
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