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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Sure, but we're not really a competitor.
I think the trade was more based on what HOU would agree to.

Nets game:
Uncle Julius really carried the team 1st half.
BKY was leaving Knix open for outside shots.

I'm midway through the 3Q and Rovers looked fine.
Finished 3-10 FG's, but missed a pair of first half layups that were very makeable.
Did get faked out by Joe Harris and burned back door once.  But seemed like a solid game from Au Revoir.

[kidcarter8]

Knicks will have a chance at Allen in the offseason.  We will see how much Bo likes him then - when he comes up with an offer for Cavs to match.

Meanwhile Prince has 15+ mil for NEXT year as well.  Cleveland seems to not be worried about the cap space hit.

On the block:  JaVale McGee and Andre Drummond, both unrestricted for next year.

[kidcarter8]

Cavs took Prince/Allen in with their trade exception.  I dont think we have one

Report does say the NETS called Cle, by the way.  Cavs had asked for Allen a few times since the '17 draft.  I guess BK coyuld have called all the other teams but I figure time was of the essence

One question would be if HOU really said no to Allen.  With Wood on board - could be.

[kidcarter8]

One other thing - Knicks have to re-up MITCH this offseason.  To also be tasked with matching on Allen may have mucked up the picture a bit.

[Jerrya]

 RJ barret currently looks like a bust for a number 3 pick.  Right now he is a killer  who can’t shoot. 

Knox has arrived as a solid rotational piece 

Quickley is a high level backup pg in the nba. Perfect for what we need him to be.

  Mitchel Robinson is our starting center. He is a double double every night. He need to expand 1 more skill set to get him to a borderline all star level.

We are losing currently because other teams are more proficient from 3,
Fix this and we will get wins

[kidcarter8]

Any word on Toppin?

Was he just not moving well, so Thibs removed him right away?

I thought Barrett found something later in the game last night.  A few Js looked pure.

[bodiddley]

The other day I quickly skimmed through recent #3 picks and it was a little discouraging.  A lot of teams got franchise players/all-stars at #3.
Luka
RJB
Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Okafor (a rare #3 miss -- we took KZ next at #4)
Embiid
Otto Porter
Brad Beal

[Kam]

Take a look at Bradley Beal in his first two seasons at the same age as RJ and tell me you see a big difference.

Beal with a better 3 ball, RJ a better rebounder.

Too early to declare RJ a bust.

[kidcarter8]

Analytics - Barrett

PER

2020 - 10.7
2021 - 10.8

Double digit game score

2020 - 21 of 56
2021 - 6 of 12

18+ game score -

2020 - 6 of 56
2021 - 3 of 12

20+ game score -

2020 - 3 of 56
2021 - 2 of 12


PROGRESS.

[bodiddley]

From 3-land, Beal shot 39% and then 40% his first two years.
That's elite.

RJB isn't a bust.  He's a hard worker, mature, physical with some solid skills.
But also notable deficiencies.  He should be a long term starter.  I'm hoping he hones his defense -- which is up and down for now -- regardless if he ever learns to shoot well from distance.  Boarding,  drives, hustle, midrange, some playmaking.  That's solid.  Add in good defense, which he has the tools and energy for, and he's a nice player.

But relative to other draft classes, RJB was a weak #3 pick.
Twas a 2-man draft and we were slotted 3rd.

[Kam]

Beal was drafted as a 3pt shooter.  That was his rep.  RJB is a great mid-range shooter.  He is trying to shift his range farther out.  He isn't afraid.

[kidcarter8]

I like the '19 draft.

[bodiddley]

RJB is a great mid-range shooter.

Says you ... and maybe RJB's mom.
RJB is highly erratic with his midrange shooting.
Last year from 3'-10' RJB shot 27%; this year 28%.
10'-16' 28% then, 30% now.

He has upped his FT% from an anemic 61% to an almost respectable 70%
He is good at finishing around the rim

[bodiddley]

I like the '19 draft.

A lot of pretty good/interesting PF's.  Probably the best PF draft in a long time.
Zionista, Hachimura, PJ Washington, Cam Johnson, Brandon Clarke, Jax Hayes, Eric Paschall

[kidcarter8]

Barrett is a scorer - not a shooter. 

If we are discussing BEAL vs BARRETT -

Bradley was steady his first 4 years in the league, then took off year 5

Barrett will be an improver his first 4 - on an incline from a lower start than BB due to the lower percentages.  INCLINE - but will he pop in years 5+?  Remains to be seen.

BEAL - see under ADVANCED - TS%, assist%, usage starting in year 5, leading to positive win shares per 48 (above .100, which is league average)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bealbr01.html