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1 (33.3%)

Celtics

2 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[MichealPlund]

 
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[carlos123]

Enes impressive again, 22 and 11 for +17 in 34 minutes.
Melo did poorly.

[facilitatorn]

Mavs & Pels both caught losses.

[carlos123]

Mavs & Pels both caught losses.

KP not playing again. What’s wrong with him now?

Like the Kamster used to say when he was wiser, KP tosses salads in Dallas.

On the whole, I’d rather have Julius 😉

[Kam]

Mavs & Pels both caught losses.

[facilitatorn]

I only root against them like they were the cowboys in years they owe us an unprotected first round pick.

[bodiddley]

Lakes-Celts game was a lot of fun.
LeBJ fell down with 40 secs left after his travelling wasn't called.  Goofy turnover.
Both teams with enough endgame mistakes.
 
Finally, Kemba makes a terrific defensive play to strip AD, Caruso makes a great hustle play to get back, and Kemba can't make a fairly easy shot for the W.  Kemba with a rough shooting night, but I thought Shroeder's dumb foul a minute earlier might get Kemba going after making 2 FT's.

[Yankguy1]

Very weird how Bo picks every nit on LBJ.

[chipstern]

While I wish no ill will nor bad health to Kristaps Porzingis, I'd be one lying motherfucker if I said I didn't look very carefully at the box scores every day.  KP is a significant talent, but he cannot seem to stay on the court. 

Assessing the Phil Jackson Regime with that of Leon Rose & Company, well. 

OUR own #2 pick for this season goes to the Sixers, based upon an absurd transaction Phool Jackoff made in 2015, where as I recall our future #2 was conveyed in exchange for someone basically eating a contract we wanted to get rid of. 

From 2022 on we retain control of all of our #1 and #2 picks. 

In 2023, besides possessing our own #1 & 2 picks, we have Dallas 2023 #1 pick [1-10 protected], Detroit's second rounder, and Utah's second rounder. 

In any event. 

In 2021, the Knicks have their own #1 and Dallas' #1, unprotected. 

In 2021 we also have Detroit's #2 and Charlotte's #2. 

Among the 1-through-14 teams currently under .500 one quarter of the way into the season, and presently in the draft lottery with the top sub-.500 teams on the cusp of the playoffs? 

Wizards 3-12
Timberwolves 4-12
Pistons 5-15
Heat/Raptors 7-12
Pelicans/Bulls 7-11
Mavericks/Magic 8-12
Kings 8-11
Thunder 8-10
Knicks/Hornets 9-11
Cavs 9-10
Rockets 9-9

The 2020 draft was purported to be weak, yet some significant talent has come through both at the bottom of the first round and on in to the second round. 

The 2021 Draft is projected to be one of the strongest arrays of talent in recene memory. 

As presently aligned, pre-ping pong balls, the Mavs & Magic are presently tied for the 8-9 seed, while the Knicks are tied with the Hornets for the 12-13 seeds. 

As things stand now, the Knicks are looking at a pair of mid-first rounders, and the first pick in the second round. 

AND THAT CLASS, IS WHY YOU DO NOT PISS AWAY DRAFT PICKS. 

[kidcarter8]

So to sum up...

We have 2 #2 picks this year, a season after we didn't even WANT our final second rounder and CHIP is moaning that Phil Jax dealt ours to create cap space.

As you were, all.

[chipstern]

Through the machinations of successive administrations, the Sixers ended up owning the Knicks #2 picks in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. 

October 27, 2014
Traded Travis Outlaw, a 2018 2nd round draft pick (Isaac Bonga was later selected) and a 2019 2nd round draft pick (Nicolas Claxton was later selected) to the Philadelphia 76ers for Arnett Moultrie. (Right to swap second-round picks)

Waived Arnett Moultrie 

January 5, 2015
As part of a 3-team trade, the New York Knicks traded Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith to the Cleveland Cavaliers; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Lou Amundson, Alex Kirk and a 2019 2nd round draft pick (Carsen Edwards was later selected) to the New York Knicks; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Dion Waiters to the Oklahoma City Thunder; the Oklahoma City Thunder traded a 2016 1st round draft pick (Furkan Korkmaz was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers; and the Oklahoma City Thunder traded Lance Thomas to the New York Knicks.

Waived Samuel Dalembert

[kidcarter8]

Looking at the records Senor Stern posted seems there are really just THREE abysmal teams in the league - and 2 of them have an All League guy to navigate when we face them.

Real nice job with cap rules by the NBA, leading to a decent level of parity

Now if we can do something about a bought out player joining a team for free (see Drummond to Nets) it can only be better.  A limit to Tier 1 player adds in a particular off-season would also be cool, preventing a player bundle from leaping to desired destination and SUPERTEAMING with little pushback from other teams

[bodiddley]

Very weird how Bo picks every nit on LBJ.

Did you see the game?
It's pretty glaring when you're up 3 with 50 secs left and a reset 14 sec clock, and your star player falls down untouched and loses the ball out of bounds with 40 secs left.  He wasn't even yet making a move, just doing his illegal imo "crab dribble."

Celt ball down 3 with 40 secs left.

Actually I didn't like the entire Lake possession.  Tatum cuts the lead to 3 with 1:09 left, and the Lakes use some clock and LBJ clanks a long 3.  I'd much rather a higher % shot, maybe something going to the hoop where you might get FT's or compromise the D.   But LBJ's heel of the rim miss kicks out and AD grabs the long rebound.  Seems JVG and Jax agree with me on the prior 3, as they start advising LBJ to attack.  Then he falls down and the ball trickles over the sideline in slo-mo.

Maybe LBJ is getting fatigued late in games.  He's amazing but also 36 in his 18th season.  Had 5 turns to 7 assists v. Celts in 37 mins.  In the previous game he only scored Two 2nd half points in a loss.

[bodiddley]

Shump to the Netizens to shore up their Kyrie-Harden backcourt D.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nets-to-sign-veteran-free-agent-guard-iman-shumpert-per-report/

[kidcarter8]

So..

getting back to draft talk -

do you think Knicks still target a lead guard - or with the emergence of Quickley and money to spend do we go "best player available" (BPA)?

I see a cat named DAVID DUKE (aplogies to Knicks 12 and some others) has risen to top ten status - point guard out of PROVIDENCE of all places.  He's a junior.

Other lead guards in top 20 -

Suggs (1 - Gonzaga)
Cuningham (4 - Ok State)

in first round

Dosunmu (22 - Illinois)
Nembhard (23 - TCU)
Jokubaitis (29 - Lithuainia)
Thomas (30 - LSU)