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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17280 on: February 25, 2021, 01:08:36 AM »

Last year Burks had it over Bullock - and this year AB is shooting 3s at a 40% clip - what we sorely needed.

Burks season 3Pt % is still somewhat inflated from his 3-game December flamethrowing.
Since his first 3 games in Dec, Burks has shot a middling 35% on treys.  31% in 6 January games.  37% in 11 Feb games.  One can argue that Burks was returning after injury in Jan, and 37% in Feb is more a reflection of his prowess.  But that's the same % Bullocks has shot all season.  A solid, sightly above average % on 3's.

The point is that Burks isn't the 67% 3-point shooter he was in Dec, or the 31% shooter in Jan.  He's only temporarily an above 40% shooter as season totals have it.  Really he's the 37% guy in Feb.  A Bullox level 3-point shooter.

Reg Bull is a significantly better defender, both on ball and closing out on weak side shooters.
Which is why he starts.   

Burx has rebounded surprisingly well all season. 
The first 4 games Burx played he got a lot of FT's.  The first 7 games he got to the line.  Then the next 13 games he only had 3 games where he got any FT's at all.  We really haven't seen Burx drive in about a month.  And when he gets 0-boards he passes out and resets instead of aggressively trying to score.

Most of our shooting g's/wings make 2's at the same rate as 3's (and as each other). 
Bullox: 40.7% FG & 37.1 on 3's
Burks : 39.1%   &   40.2  (37% in Feb)
Quicks: 38.7%   &   36.5
D Rose: 38.4%  &   35.7

That's some low overall FG%
AuRivers: 43.0  &  36.4  actually has the best numbers

ELf has the best overall FG 44%, with a 2Pt% of 48%, but an anemic 24% on 3's.
Bullox is a healthy 46.3% on 2-Pointers, but he takes very few (just 3 attempts per game)
2 Point FG%: Quicks = 41%; Rose 39%; Burks 38%; Rivers 52%
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17281 on: February 25, 2021, 11:34:22 AM »

The three plus games I've seen CHI, Zach played one good quarter.  And some sub-par D.
So maybe just small sample on my part, but Z-lavie doesn't seem to impact winning.
While FVV has been a 2-way terror and TOR's best player.  Seems more impactful.

Well, Levine looked pretty good with his 35 points last night.

Maybe you're on to something, but I've had a different experience, and whenever I chance upon him, he's making the difference.

Speaking of impact, it's obvious that we need some offensive power. Am I too impatient to expect Barrett to step up more? He seems an average player with his spot up shot, but above average in his ability to drive through the paint to the hoop. So I keep hoping he will "exert his will" or some such shit. But maybe that's not him. I don't know.


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17282 on: February 25, 2021, 12:35:17 PM »

Burks season 3Pt % is still somewhat inflated from his 3-game December flamethrowing.


Could say this about most players.

Fact is off last season and off their CAREERS the current production levels of Burks and Bullock (13.4 vs 8,8 PER) are not surprising.

But I would agree AB has a higher level he could attain.  We may not have seen his best for 20-21.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17283 on: February 25, 2021, 12:37:07 PM »

Well, Levine looked pretty good with his 35 points last night.


Bucket getters just do not grow on trees.

I had said this all along re:  RANDLE.

Bo thinks you can win without a good number of these type players

You can't.
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« Reply #17284 on: February 25, 2021, 03:05:01 PM »

There once was a sampling of the species

Who took pride in his non-aromatic feces

In doggin' on one player

Whose shortcomings he laid bare

His credibility lay shattered in pieces
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Re: Dawgin' Around
« Reply #17285 on: February 25, 2021, 04:37:59 PM »

There once was a sampling of the species

Who took pride in his non-aromatic feces

In doggin' on one player

Whose shortcomings he laid bare

His credibility lay shattered in pieces


There once was an overweight Jew
Who took exception with a Flatbush based shrew
In punking his foes
He proved how little he knows
Like a bad case of the Trumpian Flu

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« Reply #17286 on: February 25, 2021, 04:42:10 PM »

"Knick Knick"

Who's scared?

"Scared who?"

Scared someone might find out I'm actually a rogue Nyets Fan
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« Reply #17287 on: February 25, 2021, 04:57:03 PM »

Brad Townsend: On the 12:30 injury report, Kristaps Porzingis has been downgraded to doubtful and Maxi Kleber has been upgraded to probable for tonight’s game in Philly. – via Twitter townbrad

Mavs are 15-15

[Knicks are 15-17]


Impressive numbers when he suits up: 20.4 ppg, 8.2 boards, 47-55 from the FT stripe [.855%]

Out of 30 games in 2020-2021, he has suited up for 17. 

Out of 246 games from 2017-2020, he suited up for 105. 

"Don't cry for me Argentina..." 
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« Reply #17288 on: February 25, 2021, 05:18:55 PM »

Hey guys,

Here's a link to a highlight reel my friend made that I helped put together.  Please watch, like, share, thanks!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1365058398383976451
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17289 on: February 25, 2021, 06:13:57 PM »

Nice I like the song choice. The end makes it poignant how good it is that we’re getting good now even though the schedule gods have worked hard to give us a second half that keeps us in the lottery.

Keep the faith for 9th or 10th, coming out playing our best ball.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17290 on: February 25, 2021, 08:13:13 PM »

Well, Levine looked pretty good with his 35 points last night.

Bucket getters just do not grow on trees.
I had said this all along re:  RANDLE.
Bo thinks you can win without a good number of these type players
You can't.

And Kid thinks you can win without defense (just outscore 'em!)
When scorers play chumpy D such as LeVine, Hield, Tim Jr, their scoring is just a mirage and doesn't contribute to winning.

I look for guys who play D and are consistent, to go with scoring.
Two-way players help you win.  When I've seen CHI, Young Thad seems more important to the game outcome than ZlaV.   Again, maybe I need to see CHI more.

A big difference with Randle this year is he is playing solid team D.  He's still a turnstyle in transition, and can get burned when forced to guard on the perimeter.  But he's been a much better defender in Thib's system.

Knix winning this year based on strong D.
Fox and Hiled are bucket-getters.  Kings 12-17.
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« Reply #17291 on: February 25, 2021, 09:57:23 PM »

Burks goes off.
19 4Q points.  5 treys.

Luke waited too long to get Fox & TyH back in.
NYK lead ballooned to 20 when Luke finally gets his 2nd unit out of there, a couple minutes too late.

Hield looked totally disinterested.
Around 6 mins left, SacKings down 14 or so, Hield throws a pass right to Quickly, then fouls for no reason on the other end, and then runs directly into a Taj screen so Burks gets his 3rd straight 3.  Not surprised he finished with a team worst +/- (-22).

140 points.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17292 on: February 25, 2021, 10:15:19 PM »

Two-way players help you win.  When I've seen CHI, Young Thad seems more important to the game outcome than ZlaV.   Again, maybe I need to see CHI more.


Yes, you do.

Your comment re:  Zach vs Van Vleet was puzzling.  ZL is a monster this year.

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Nice bounce back tonight for IQ - and good to see Thibs use Frank

Rivers awaits his new destination, reportedly.

CELTS IN KNICKS REAR VIEW
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17293 on: February 25, 2021, 10:35:53 PM »

I'm getting the impression Chip thinks I'm mean.

I don't think so. I just prefer some players over another player.*

Why can't I think that?

Yes, tonight was a DELIGHT.


* A player who fits in incredibly poorly with rest of our starting lineup

** Welcome back, Frank!!! (Guess my new fave backcourt combo)

** Stick to shooting those in-rhythm 3's, Alec, and we're good
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« Reply #17294 on: February 25, 2021, 10:38:58 PM »

FVV:  20 / 6.7 ass. / 4.5 boards.
1.7 steals (3rd in the NBofA), 2nd in the League in deflections (tied with Simmons), nearly a block a game for a short chunky guy.  Plays both ends at a high level and has been TOR's best player.  3rd in the League in minutes. They won 6 of 7 Lowry missed. 
Just contributes to winning.


Really enjoy watching TyH and the way he moves around the court.
Had 4 steals and just keeps the ball moving.
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