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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Diallo has the same per 36 numbers as RJ with a higher EFG despite rarely hitting a three so far in his career. He’s got skills and bounce, averaging 11 & 5 in 23 minutes. Definitely a player to keep an eye on.

[carlos123]

Top performer today at halftime:

Enes Kanter with 15 points and 6 rebounds.

In second place:

Dame and Melo, 10 points each.

What about that?

PS. Great win by the real Knicks today! Only disappointment Ntilikina. Can't have it all.

[kidcarter8]

PS: Al Horford is still an excellent NBA Stretch 4-5.  A trade target?  Turning 35 in June?  NO FUCKING WAY: Not at 27 million for this year and the next two.  However, were he to come available via a buyout and vet minimums or Enes Kanter/Nerlens Noel prices?  In a NY Minute.



hahaaaaaa...

expected you to check in on Al.

Now, we could lose the next three, but if we go 1-2 or dare I say better - we are IN this hunt - and AL HORFORD makes us better

But let him go to LA, sure.  I'd enjoy seeing him compete in the semis.

[kidcarter8]

By the way - get the wax out of your ears - 3rd year on Horford is an option

[bodiddley]

Diallo has the same per 36 numbers as RJ with a higher EFG despite rarely hitting a three so far in his career. He’s got skills and bounce, averaging 11 & 5 in 23 minutes. Definitely a player to keep an eye on.

Funny you should say that, I was thinking that Diallo is a 2nd round version of RJB. 
Diallo young and starting to break out.
Diallo has become a very good rim attacker -- rebounds, defends, plays with energy, starting to pass.

Diallo has done a better job this season of finding teammates when opponents cut off his drives in the half court, accounting for that improved assist rate.
There have been times he has looked downright difficult to stop, including averaging 16.6 PPG, 8.0 RPG and 4.0 APG in five starts.

He's a more valuable player than Svi who has underperformed.
Thing is OKC starts Shai and Dort who aren't 3-point shooters.
And Diallo will be an RFA so will look for some money in the offseason.
Svi is billed as a shooter, which is what everyone wants, but has been off target this year.

I get Insider articles via the ESPN India site.
https://www.espn.in/nba/insider/story/_/id/31054181/trade-grades-wins-thunder-pistons-deal-hamidou-diallo

Zach Lowe a few weeks before the trade:

Diallo is having a nice season. Once among the league's most frenetic players, he has made more under-control plays like this drive-and-kick. With George Hill, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, and Theo Maledon all missing snippets of time, we have seen glimpses of Point Hami -- and they have not been terrible! Diallo had 53 assists combined his first two seasons; he has 77 in this one. He's just 22.

Diallo is a solid defender and very good rebounder. He's shooting 29% on 3s, and that's the skill that will make or break his ability to play real minutes on a good team someday.

Hard to know how Diallo will do in the chaos that is DET.
I'm not even sure who is manning the Point for them.
Answer: Delon is back after missing two weeks.

[facilitatorn]

Maybe Ellington will teach him something about shot prep to further unlock his game.

Al is too old to pay full freight for. Any moves are to enhance the roster for a push that is two years out optimistically. Winning is fine, building culture and developing players are both good things. Sacrificing assets or handcuffing ourselves financially for a better outcome this season is nuts and it ain’t gonna happen.

Love to watch Al. It won’t be happening in a Knicks uniform.

[chipstern]

Maybe Ellington will teach him something about shot prep to further unlock his game.

Al is too old to pay full freight for. Any moves are to enhance the roster for a push that is two years out optimistically. Winning is fine, building culture and developing players are both good things. Sacrificing assets or handcuffing ourselves financially for a better outcome this season is nuts and it ain’t gonna happen.

Love to watch Al. It won’t be happening in a Knicks uniform.

Thank you. 

We wouldn't give Gordon Hayward more that 25 million per, but we're going to give Al 27 million? 

Tell me about the rabbits George.  BROCK ALLER begs to differ.   

And AGAIN....

I LOVES me some Al Horford.

But the idea of going all in on a 35 year old center, when we are really only at the very beginning of our rebuild journey is the type of lame ass move that has kept the Knicks in the shitter for 20 years. 

No buyout?  No waiver wire prices? 

Then NoAl.  Rather, NoEl. 

[kidcarter8]

We wouldn't give Gordon Hayward more that 25 million per, but we're going to give Al 27 million?


This is false in its incomplete state - as you have been told now a few times.

Knicks wanted G Hayward.

G Hayward wanted Charlotte and Boston wanted a trade rather than an outright free agent leaving.  Going to the Knicks would not have given Hayward the focus he wanted - and sure - if you want to say we would have given him less money - go for it.

But I dont think the top figure Knicks would have gone to has been seen yet in print.

[kidcarter8]

No buyout?  No waiver wire prices?

Then NoAl.  Rather, NoEl.

Why on earth would OKC buy Horford out?

[Jack Straw]

From the Mike Vorkunov at the  athletic:
The list of 2nd-year players 21-and-younger who averaged RJ Barrett’s numbers (25+ min, 16+ pts, 5+ reb, and at least 35% shooting on 3s) since 2000-01: LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Karl-Anthony Towns, Kristaps Porzingis, Brandon Ingram, & Lauri Markkanen.

Not too shabby at all...

[kidcarter8]

Knicks hanging in on the strength of Reg Bullock

The you suck, you sit group expands to Burks and Toppin with Frank

[Kam]

I'm not going to call it a moral victory.  BUT that game, national game on ESPN, especially the end of the fourth quarter was one big advertisement for the Thibodeau-Knicks.  Outgunned but not outdone. No quit in this outfit.  And a "what-if" ending you can hang on a missed call.  One small step backwards for the playoff hopes but one big step forward for the future. 

[facilitatorn]

Good night, as Dallas lost as well.

This kind of game against this kind of competition is great for our development.

[bodiddley]

Reg the Bull showed up.
Was lights out and did a credible job guarding Harden.
Irving whipped out some crazy moves and Quix mostly stuck right with him.
Some of those moves are not really guardable.
Harden sliced Knix up in the PnR.  Very nice bounce passes.

Late in the 1st Half, IQ crosses halfcourt and passes immediately to Randle.  Who proceeds to post up Harden.  Next possession, Randle gets a rebound and starts to dribble upcourt and Harden knocks it off Randle for a turnover.  Need to have the G's bring the ball upcourt, not Randle. 

Knix did a nice job end of 2Q cutting a 16 point lead down to 12.  Getting a couple stops in the last 1:20.

Knix must lead the league in transition/early-offense take fouls.

Randle was getting frustarted and making some 3Q mistakes, so on a missed 3 mid-3Q Randle just banged Green Jeff out of the way and got the O-board and putback.     Even knocked Green out of the game (with a cool 20 points).

[chipstern]

If Durant can ever get healthy and Griffin can stay healthy, the Nyets are a scary prospect.  Too bad Dimwiddie got hurt. 

Harden playing a different role with Nyets than with Houston. Don' t know if BoD recalls but we had an argument some years ago as to whether Harden was a PG or not.  Be that as it may have been, he sure as hell is one now.  Some of his passes in transition were breathtaking.

And Kyrie.  Enigmatic fellow, personality wise...bailing on pressers on one hand, funding scholarships on the other...thought it was cute watching him chat up Thibs on the sideline and getting some smiles out of the dour one. 

On the court?  Don't think I have seen anyone this season where I had a sense of them being so utterly unstoppable.  There was a play on the baseline where IQ was on him, practically in his shorts, good defensive posture and aggression; Kyrie gave him the okeydoke, fell back awkwardly, creating seperation...SWISH. 

And like Kam says, no MORAL VICTORIES, and even with that blown call that rightfully set Julius into a rage, Thibs' charges had no quit in them.  GRINDERS.  And not just gritty, but SMART.  Those defensive stands in the final 30 seconds were epic.  The fact that we were even IN THE GAME, with Harden having an Oscar Robertson-scale triple double, and Irving hittins what, like 3/4 of his shots [13-18], let alone in a position to tie it up and force overtime.  DAMN. 

Hey, even without that blown call, the Nyets won fair and square. 

Frank [+5] couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but he was tough and in their faces defensively, and got whistled on some pretty questionable calls.  Bullock [+1] was on fire from the opening bell, even if he cooled late, and his defense was exemplary.  Our only pluses on the +/- scale. Well, excuse me, THE CAPTAIN with 33-12-6 and 3 steals. 

IQ was only 6-19 with 2 assists, but he had 21 points and no turnovers while getting schooled by Kyrie, but he never backed down.  Still see him more as a Lou Williams kind of combo than a pure point, but it is still very early.  He COMPETES.  Our Puppy. 

And while no one was looking, no RJ's shot was erratic, but in lieu of that his downhill game was agressive and seemingly unstoppable, as got to the line time after time, and converted 10-of-10.  Roll that around on the tip of your tongue.  21 with 6 boards, 4 assists, a block and a steal.  Another day at the office.  He COMPETES.  Our Puppy. 



And Julius, our Julius.  Ain't that A MAN?

All of this after getting bitch slapped by Milwaukee. 

Other teams have more sheer talent and firepower, but we COMPETE for 48 minutes.  This was the kind of game would have been over by the end of the first quarter by and large for the past 20 years. 

THIBS!