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2 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Thought ObiT was a blown pick from the get-go.

Avdija looked pretty bad in the 2 games v, NYK.
Didn't seem to be able to defend anyone without fouling.
Low energy.  When he finally made a forceful play, Taj blocked his baseline drive-dunk attempt.  Just doesn't play at NBA speed.

OBiT and Avdija were touted as the most NBA ready rooks (though not high-ceiling players).  Both have struggled more than expected.  Seem to get out of sorts and lose some confidence.   Both have disappointed so far.

Boston, which also ducked out of the luxury tax by sending starting center Daniel Theis to the Chicago Bulls in a separate deal, has underwhelmed at both ends this season, with Ainge singling out the team's drop from fourth in defense last season to 24th this season as a particular source of disappointment.

[kidcarter8]

Lakers were trading Shroder to get Lowry

[facilitatorn]

Deni isn’t even 20. That he can’t defend yet isn’t surprising. He still finds a ton of ways to contribute to the game. In addition to his D, all of that will get better with time.

I wouldn’t call Obi a bust yet, and I think his work ethic will make him functional if not good over the next couple of seasons, but his role in this team with us should be extremely situational this year.

[chipstern]

Hard pass on Schroeder. Thanks all the same.

I very much like our current roster post trade. I hope we hang on to VP. He’s more than just a tall guy with a good beard. He can do drop coverage, trench warfare, and the high pick game. It’s his third year in the league, but his 12th or 13th as a pro coming from the European system. Terrance could be ready for Thibs now. VP lets Randle play with another floor stretching big. That should be worth a look. It also frees up Taj to spell Randle adding a little punch to our second unit. Poirier is also a recent plant in Brad and Doc’s locker rooms, which never hurts in a series should one occur. Counting on the Lakers to take Drummond off our plate at least in the short term.

Mitch Noel Poirier
Randle Taj Obi
Bullock Knox Ferguson
Barrett Burks Frank
Rose Quickley Payton

Every player on the roster now brings a high degree of athletic force and a decent amount of skill. I wish this was a year we could actually practice, but I think we can still make a nice push.

I need nine more wins to hit my number.

Who among our prognosticators have already seen their predictions surpassed? I remember being on the more optimistic arc of the curve when we started this season.

Porier has been WAIVED. 

[Kam]

I need nine more wins to hit my number.

Who among our prognosticators have already seen their predictions surpassed? I remember being on the more optimistic arc of the curve when we started this season.

I don't remember my number, but I'm sure it's been surpassed by a lot already.

So glad I was DEAD WRONG.

Carlos picked 20.
I picked 22 but changed it to 30 after the Milwaukee game.

[facilitatorn]

Hard pass on Schroeder. Thanks all the same.

I very much like our current roster post trade. I hope we hang on to VP.

Porier has been WAIVED.

Mon dieu! Non! Pourquoi?

[chipstern]

What's the over under on where he lands?

I know everyone says the Lakers, but if I were him, I would have considerable interest in the Celtics. 

[chipstern]

Anyone see the Phil Jackson mea culpa on his time with the Knicks. 

The fans, Carmelo, basically everyone but himself...compared his dark night of the soul to Trump's first 3-1/2 years in office. 

I used to have a great deal of affection for him as a player, and respect for him as a coach. 

What an asshole.  ESAD, narcissistic motherfucker. 

[kidcarter8]

Get a good look at D Hunter tonight - 10 PM at Golden State ESPN

[chipstern]

Andre Drummond expects a max deal this offseason
That outcome could also appeal to Drummond, who, according to sources, told teammates earlier this season he would be getting the max in summer free agency. How often do players sign for the minimum and then turn around and get big deals? It’s hard to change perception, especially heading into an important offseason. – via Chris Fedor @ Cleveland Plain Dealer

[kidcarter8]

OBiT and Avdija were touted as the most NBA ready rooks (though not high-ceiling players).  Both have struggled more than expected.  Seem to get out of sorts and lose some confidence.   Both have disappointed so far.


No

[kidcarter8]

Avdija played 34 international games - for a total of 422 minutes.  What signified NBA ready if he wasnt Maccabi Tel Aviv ready?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/deni-avdija-1.html

[kidcarter8]

Suddenly Greek Freak's bro is a player?

12-5-3-1 tonight in 17 minutes vs Boston in a loss.

Didnt we have Thanasis at one point?

[kidcarter8]

30 spot tonight for Malik Monk - in 20 minutes

Electric.

[bodiddley]

Avdija played 34 international games - for a total of 422 minutes.  What signified NBA ready if he wasnt Maccabi Tel Aviv ready?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/deni-avdija-1.html

Yeah, Avdija "wasn't Maccabi Tel Aviv ready" ... he only led the team to an Israeli championship and was named league MVP.  At age 18.

It's usually better to know what you are talking about:

- Deni Avdija joined Maccabi Tel Aviv in 2013 and excelled as a youth player. - He debuted for their senior team in 2017, at age 16, becoming the youngest player in club history.
- Two years later, he became the youngest player to ever win the Israeli Basketball Premier League MVP award,
- and led his team to the Israeli Basketball Premier League championship.
- Avdija is also a member of the Israeli senior national basketball team.
- He has won two gold medals for Israel at the youth level, including at the 2019 FIBA U20 European Championship, where he was named tournament MVP.

So Avdija has been a pro for 7 years, on Maccabi Tel Aviv since age 16, won essentially every accolade in Israeli hoops, played in plenty of international tourneys (including MVP of the 2019 FIBA U20 European Championship).  Has played 2 seasons in Euroleague, the highest European level.  His father had a 19 year professional Euro-career, so he has a very good support group, akin to RJB.

Why would anyone think that he was more NBA ready than a whole lot of guys mostly one year out of US high school?