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« Reply #18060 on: April 08, 2021, 02:12:21 PM »

Want something to be excited about?  The ascending RJ BARRETT.  The man has made great strides in his second season.
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« Reply #18061 on: April 08, 2021, 02:23:26 PM »

Yes.  Fall out of 8th and you're a lottery team.

Thanks. 

Mixed emotions. 

Watching your mother in law going over the side of a cliff in your new Mercedes. 

Be interesting to see how Thibs responds to the home stretch.  We've already seen Frank and Kevin nailed to the pine, and now not just Obi, but IQ's minutes on a much much shorter leash. 

It would seem that the only Puppy Thibs completely trusts is RJ.  His ascent has been really inspiring. 

And his evolution is a testament to his character and work ethic, but the Knicks support system.  Watching RJ go 6-6 from trey last night was startling. 
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« Reply #18062 on: April 08, 2021, 02:27:03 PM »

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Re: Appreciation
« Reply #18063 on: April 08, 2021, 02:59:41 PM »

Want something to be excited about?  The ascending RJ BARRETT.  The man has made great strides in his second season.

Expected strides

I think what we like most is that after looking very poor from 3 pt range early this season (when I said he appeared to be moving his eyes up while he shot), RJ has righted that ship

Without the 3 ball his worth does dwindle.

Through 23 game -     ,271 from 3 pt land

Since then -       29 games     .471
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« Reply #18064 on: April 08, 2021, 05:48:58 PM »

Yes.  Fall out of 8th and you're a lottery team.

Thanks. 

Mixed emotions. 

Watching your mother in law going over the side of a cliff in your new Mercedes. 



More like eating your cake and having it too. 
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« Reply #18065 on: April 08, 2021, 08:27:29 PM »

Every game is important.

The idea that we'll probably make the playoffs even if we don't rise above mediocrity is not quite true.

At the end of the season, the 9th seed will play the 10th. Loser's season is over. Winner then plays a single game against the winner of the #7 vs #8. Loser's season is over.

In short, two of those final four teams will be getting only a brief taste of playoff experience. It's over in a flash. If that happens to the Knicks, there will be no moral victories. It won't feel like they were in the playoffs at all.

Is it too absurd to hope to see a Knicks playoff series again? For fuck's sake, the 4-6 spot is there for the taking. Save for Mitch, we're relatively healthy. They've got to figure it out before they flounder themselves out of the running.
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Re: Mixed Emotions on Thibs
« Reply #18066 on: April 08, 2021, 09:44:38 PM »

Yes.  Fall out of 8th and you're a lottery team.

Thanks. 

Mixed emotions. 

Watching your mother in law going over the side of a cliff in your new Mercedes. 

Be interesting to see how Thibs responds to the home stretch.  We've already seen Frank and Kevin nailed to the pine, and now not just Obi, but IQ's minutes on a much much shorter leash. 

It would seem that the only Puppy Thibs completely trusts is RJ.  His ascent has been really inspiring. 

And his evolution is a testament to his character and work ethic, but the Knicks support system.  Watching RJ go 6-6 from trey last night was startling.

Problem with Thibs approach is that he runs his guys, especially his main guy, into the ground.

He needs to stop playing King Julius 39 minutes a game, bad for his health and bad for the team.

He needs to learn to trust his puppies with more minutes, or else they will never develop and all the starters are gassed.

Obi has to play way more than 9 minutes a game, same as IQ.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18067 on: April 08, 2021, 10:03:47 PM »

Obi is starting to look up for it. Give him his run by all means.

I’ll still take the lotto pick and crack at a series than no lotto and a better crack at one. 1-6 or 9-10. Skip 7 & 8 which provides the worst of both worlds.
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« Reply #18068 on: April 08, 2021, 11:05:31 PM »

Knix have been losing close games.  But have been very lucky with matchups.

We got BKY without Harden and Durant (he returned the next game).
BOS without Kemba on 2nd game of a B2B.
PHI without EMbiid.
We beat MIL without Giannis, Jrue, Middleton.

That's a real run of unexpected luck.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18069 on: April 08, 2021, 11:11:47 PM »

Is it too absurd to hope to see a Knicks playoff series again? For fuck's sake, the 4-6 spot is there for the taking. Save for Mitch, we're relatively healthy. They've got to figure it out before they flounder themselves out of the running.


Sounds like you'd prefer we had made a deal

I concur.
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« Reply #18070 on: April 08, 2021, 11:53:53 PM »

Knix have been losing close games.  But have been very lucky with matchups.

We got BKY without Harden and Durant (he returned the next game).
BOS without Kemba on 2nd game of a B2B.
PHI without EMbiid.
We beat MIL without Giannis, Jrue, Middleton.

That's a real run of unexpected luck.

We did a lot of that without our starting center and our only legit PG, Rose, is just no w working himself back into shape.

Is Boston really any better with Kemba on the floor this year? Less luck by us in this case than bad planning by Ainge.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18071 on: April 09, 2021, 12:00:36 AM »

Knix have played most of their games with the same starters.
We've had way more stability than most teams this year.  Minimal lineup variation.

Mitch the only significant injury and Noel has filled in for Mitch almost perfectly.
With Nerlins and Taj we haven't missed Mitch.
Rose is our mid-season acquisition backup PG.

Yes, BOS is better with Kemba.  Very helpful when Knix have the PG advantage.
And it was a B2B for them as well (which is why Kemboy sat). 


Knix play 9 of the next 11 at Home.
Might get Lakes without A Davis and LeBJ.
The only other really tough game is @ DAL.
Time for a run ...
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« Reply #18072 on: April 09, 2021, 12:32:58 AM »

KZ 27 & 17 w/ 2 blocks in a W v. MIL.

Then again, Portis with 20 & 14 for MIL.
Portishead 54% FG / 48% on 3's this year for a PER of 23.  7 boards too.
I doubt he's stopping anyone, but Wow.
4th best 3Pt FG%.
Surprisingly Snell is 1st at 57% (on low volume)
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« Reply #18073 on: April 09, 2021, 01:25:29 AM »

Knix have played most of their games with the same starters.
We've had way more stability than most teams this year.  Minimal lineup variation.

Mitch the only significant injury and Noel has filled in for Mitch almost perfectly.
With Nerlins and Taj we haven't missed Mitch.
Rose is our mid-season acquisition backup PG.

Yes, BOS is better with Kemba.  Very helpful when Knix have the PG advantage.
And it was a B2B for them as well (which is why Kemboy sat). 


Knix play 9 of the next 11 at Home.
Might get Lakes without A Davis and LeBJ.
The only other really tough game is @ DAL.
Time for a run ...

I would love to get on the court w you some day. It’s clear we both enjoy, pay attention to, and understand the game, but we see it very differently.

Young or prime Taj could sufficiently replace Mitch. Noel does not despite his defensive prodigiousness. What he can’t do in terms of catching the ball or holding his ground too often give up more than his offense and defense garner. He’s a great fit as first defensive big off the bench. In fact, Noel, Taj, and Obi make a solid frontcourt bench especially with Pelle there to act as bouncer. I’d bring the four of them back and not feel bad if they were the reserves. 

What healthy Mitch did in terms of catch, pass, move, board, and occupy bodies and attention is easy to underrate. Have opponent offensive rebounds been a factor in any of our recent games?

Payton has developed into Marcus Smart 3 years ago which is not as good as the Marcus Smart of today. Rose isn’t ready, so it’s a cross we have to bear. Once Rose is ready, even if Elf starts Derrick will see most of the time on the floor. A PG has to above all bend defenses and get the ball moving so the right guys get shots in the right spots. Payton has been more prone to constipate things this year which has a lot to do with why Randle is so worn down.

My hope is we’re saving Burks and Prepping Rose so they peak in time for our run through the play in and into the second round of the playoffs. Randle, RJ and those two are the ones I most trust to ball in the face of pressure enough to make decent shots possible.

Anyway, the home stand should give us some chance to get organized again after this recent tough stretch. It would be nice to stop the bleeding sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #18074 on: April 09, 2021, 03:06:22 AM »

Payton is not playing as well as Smart was three years ago. If he was, we’d be in far better shape.
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