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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Nice to leave town with a cushion. Rumors of imports must have lit a fire under Elf. He played one of his better games. Julius was the boss but it took Quickley to wake us up even if he used almost all of his fouls to do it.

Nice win.

35-28 at the moment or something like that.

Holding serve out west would really help. That means getting at least one nobody thinks we should.

[facilitatorn]

Burks has a week to get himself back in shape before we see Denver.

[elephant]

Dude

Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 next year

'22-'23 we can spoil him

Noel's free agency complicated things.  Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 but if we give Nerlens 12-14mil then how do we give Mitch any less? 

As I said before.... it might work for one more year but long-term we risk painting ourselves into a corner.

That's why Noel might be signed by another team this offseason as we don't fight too hard to keep him knowing we have to sign Mitch eventually.

Inconceivable that we let Noel go.

It's fair to question Robinson's resilience. The dude is reckless — which I love. Crashes to the floor as much as any big. But can he play healthy? I've got no idea.

You really going to roll the dice on that?

[carlos123]

Lillard & McCJ are a poor defensive backcourt.
So you need some D out there; Kanter for all his boarding and interior scoring is a sieve on D.

Are you sure Kanter is STILL a sieve? Or are you just assuming his game hasn't changed from when he was an actual Knick instead of a Portland Knick?

All I know is that he now has plenty of assists and blocks, which were nonexistent back then.

Also, that Portland wins a lot more when he plays more minutes.

Hell, Even Kamster the Hamster is now an Enes booster!!!

Obviously, I'm making up the bit about Kamster the Hamster 😜

PS. GREAT WIN TONIGHT!

GO KNICKS!!!

[Kam]

Dude

Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 next year

'22-'23 we can spoil him

Noel's free agency complicated things.  Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 but if we give Nerlens 12-14mil then how do we give Mitch any less? 

As I said before.... it might work for one more year but long-term we risk painting ourselves into a corner.

That's why Noel might be signed by another team this offseason as we don't fight too hard to keep him knowing we have to sign Mitch eventually.

Inconceivable that we let Noel go.

It's fair to question Robinson's resilience. The dude is reckless — which I love. Crashes to the floor as much as any big. But can he play healthy? I've got no idea.

You really going to roll the dice on that?

Noel is dependable and defensively stalwart, but doesn't have great hands offensively to catch and finish like Mitch.  I kind of agree with you that we could value Noel's ability and availability (if he comes at a significantly lesser price tag) over Mitch's promise and offensive brilliance. 

To play the other side though... Mitch is the NBA single season FG% leader!   It's also inconceivable we let that go!! This is why it's a fascinating topic of discussion.

[Kam]

It’s a Hard Knicks Life
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Knicks players 22 & under (RJ, Obi and Quickley) outscored the entire Bulls roster 20 to 19 in the 4th quarter.

[bodiddley]

Earlier in the year I was checking in with POR, when McCJ was out and Lillard carrying the team.  Kanter's D just was the same as everywhere he's been.  But his boarding is better.  Lost interest in POR 2nd half of the season.

The only West teams I've seen a good amount -- SacKings and PHX.  Then some DaL & UtaH.  I would watch some Clips if they ever court a healthy full squad.

ChiBulls looked disorganized.  Coby White can't really run a team.
Vuj wound up with a big game after being a mess early
I like Markkanen -- would look good on the Knix.
Beat RJB backdoor a number of times.
Pat Will never seems to be much involved when I see the Bulls (probably just v. NYK -- cause why would you want to watch a Bulls game).

[chipstern]

Earlier in the year I was checking in with POR, when McCJ was out and Lillard carrying the team.  Kanter's D just was the same as everywhere he's been.  But his boarding is better.  Lost interest in POR 2nd half of the season.

The only West teams I've seen a good amount -- SacKings and PHX.  Then some DaL & UtaH.  I would watch some Clips if they ever court a healthy full squad.

ChiBulls looked disorganized.  Coby White can't really run a team.
Vuj wound up with a big game after being a mess early
I like Markkanen -- would look good on the Knix.
Beat RJB backdoor a number of times.
Pat Will never seems to be much involved when I see the Bulls (probably just v. NYK -- cause why would you want to watch a Bulls game).

Marrkkanen?

So.

Who sits?

Reggie

Obi

JULIUS?

[bodiddley]

Markk could easily take ObiT's scant time and relieve Julius of 5 mins a game. 
Randle 34 - Mark 14 on average.  Another bench scorer/big.

Depends what you project Topping as.  I'd rather Mark shooting 3's and spacing the floor than ObiT.  Markk 3" taller and just 1 year and 2 months older than ObiT.  Markk more advanced and experienced.

The only real issue to me is what Mark needs to get paid, as ObiT is on the rook scale for a few more years.  But that's exactly why Markk could be had.
Bulls haven't done well developing yute.  And have had a lot of shuffling and re-shuffling.  So far the only skills i've seen from ObiT are boarding -- which we have plenty of -- and running the floor.  Of course, ObiT hasn't had much chance to excel ... but also would be out there more if his D and game were ready for it.  Thibs trusts RJB and half-trusts Quix.  Obi gotta earn time and trust.

Marxx has size and skill.  And I think he could help these Knix.   Again, if he were a finished product, he wouldn't be available on the semi-cheap.  Markk could open driving lanes for Quix and Rose while getting open 3's.  Also getting some PnR oops.
Untapped potential.  And I think he could play tougher if asked to under Thibs.

[bodiddley]

Bulls much more coherent 3Q when their Bigs handled the ball and Coby W was either spotting up/uninvolved or out of the game.  Vuc dominated 3Q.

Refs missed a number of calls.  RJB forearmed Coby in the mouth on a drive, and they just called it out of bounds on White.  Thad slammed into Randle on the fast break and got the call.  Though the NBA tends to let the offensive player offend and get calls.  Lotta bad 3Q calls.

But 2Q, Vuc got called for getting in the landing zone of Randle on a 3.  But it sure looked like Randle unnaturally extended his leg out a few feet for no reason (except to feign encroachment by Vuc).  Otherwise Vuc was two feet away from Randle's left foot and where his right should have come down.  It was a physical game and mistakes happen, but the refs had a bad game.

[kidcarter8]

Dude

Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 next year

'22-'23 we can spoil him

Noel's free agency complicated things.  Mitch doesn't get more than 1.8 but if we give Nerlens 12-14mil then how do we give Mitch any less? 

As I said before.... it might work for one more year but long-term we risk painting ourselves into a corner.

That's why Noel might be signed by another team this offseason as we don't fight too hard to keep him knowing we have to sign Mitch eventually.

Inconceivable that we let Noel go.

It's fair to question Robinson's resilience. The dude is reckless — which I love. Crashes to the floor as much as any big. But can he play healthy? I've got no idea.

You really going to roll the dice on that?

Good post

But I think it's still a money talks league - and there will be other options.  No doubt Pelle is here as a buffer.

[kidcarter8]

ChiBulls looked disorganized.  Coby White can't really run a team.


LaVine was out, right?

Just a small issue - heh

[Knicks321]

Nice win Knicks! Keep it up!

[kidcarter8]

Luca Vildoza signing is official

Eligible for post season

[bodiddley]

Yeah, Knix got another team without its leading scorer.
And in fairness to CHiBulls, Vuc & Theis are newcomers.
Still they only played hard for the middle two quarters.
And it was hard to see what role PaWilliams and Markk were supposed to fill.
They were after-thoughts.

Thad Young does a lot well, but notice how many times the ball was kicked out to Thad at the 3-point line and he simply wasn't going to shoot.
Last year he took 3.5 triples per game and hit at a 35.6% rate.
But this year he doesn't hoist, just 0.6 3's per game and a 27% success rate.

Ideally those passes would have been going to ZLeV.  Or from Zach to Coby or another Bulls shooter.