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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18840 on: May 17, 2021, 09:43:57 PM »

Just checked the game logs and Payton was way worse against the Hawks than he was against the rest of the league. I have no idea how this will effect the lineups in this series.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18841 on: May 18, 2021, 02:25:23 AM »

Knicks were up 16-15 when Elfrid left the game.


It should not have been so close.  Go re-watch.

I know.  We missed shots and they made a couple of threes

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« Reply #18842 on: May 18, 2021, 11:08:11 AM »

Just checked the game logs and Payton was way worse against the Hawks than he was against the rest of the league. I have no idea how this will effect the lineups in this series.

Game 1, 6 for 18, lol, an astounding team low -11 +/- (Trae goes off on him for 31 pts/14 assists)

Game 2 Fares a little better 5-12, with 7 boards and a +3, (Quick/Rose both +8)

Game 3 Most recent and most relevant, he somehow manages a -13 in our ten point overtime win.  (Quick/Rose + 29 & +14 respectively)


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« Reply #18843 on: May 18, 2021, 12:34:12 PM »

Just checked the game logs and Payton was way worse against the Hawks than he was against the rest of the league. I have no idea how this will effect the lineups in this series.

Game 1, 6 for 18, lol, an astounding team low -11 +/- (Trae goes off on him for 31 pts/14 assists)

Game 2 Fares a little better 5-12, with 7 boards and a +3, (Quick/Rose both +8)

Game 3 Most recent and most relevant, he somehow manages a -13 in our ten point overtime win.  (Quick/Rose + 29 & +14 respectively)


*** you better do a full detach on that head, refill and reassemble, Thibs!

I feel sorry for Payton. Some fans are just relentless.
Les, you’re putting too much pressure on poor Elfrid.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18844 on: May 18, 2021, 01:41:09 PM »

I am 100% rooting for his full recovery, both as an athlete and sentient human being.


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18845 on: May 18, 2021, 02:39:36 PM »

Some good stuff today on NBA Radio re:  Payton playing time
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Coach of the year
« Reply #18846 on: May 18, 2021, 03:29:06 PM »

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« Reply #18847 on: May 18, 2021, 03:37:56 PM »

2020-21: $3,500,000   

2021-22: $3,325,000   

2022-23: $3,150,000   

2023-24: $3,150,000   

Not sure who or how the monies were allocated concerning LV's buyout with his Europleague club, if the Knicks picked it up, or LV, but his 20-21 monies are guaranteed. 

The remaining three years are ALL TEAM OPTIONS

Derrick Rose           $7,682,926   $0   $0   $0   $0
Joakim Noah           $6,431,666   $6,431,666   $0   $0   $0
Frank Ntilikina           $6,176,578   $8,326,027   $0   $0   $0
Alec Burks                   $6,000,000   $0   $0   $0   $0
Nerlens Noel           $5,000,000   $0   $0   $0   $0
Elfrid Payton           $4,767,000   $0   $0   $0   $0
Kevin Knox           $4,588,680   $5,845,978   $7,921,300   $0   $0
Reggie Bullock           $4,200,000   $0   $0   $0   $0
Terrance Ferguson   $3,944,013   $0   $0   $0   $0
Luca Vildoza           $3,500,000   $3,325,000   $3,150,000   $3,150,000   $0
Taj Gibson                   $3,283,684   $0   $0   $0   $0
Vincent Poirier           $2,619,207   $0   $0   $0   $0
Jacob Evans           $2,017,320   $0   $0   $0   $0
Omari Spellman           $1,988,280   $0   $0   $0   $0
Mitchell Robinson   $1,663,861   $1,802,057   $0   $0   $0
Wayne Ellington           $1,000,000   $0   $0   $0   $0
Theo Pinson           $802,182           $0   $0   $0   $0
Jared Harper           $520,487           $0   $0   $0   $0
John Henson           $158,907           $0   $0   $0   $0
Tyler Hall                   $25,000           $0   $0   $0   $0
Andrew White           $25,000           $0   $0   $0   $0
Myles Powell           $3,076           $0

Knicks cap management is very interesting. 

If you look at G-Leaugers, 2-way Contracts, 10-contracts, buyouts, and contracts of players we aquired in trades where we are eating their salariers and the money comes off the books this summer?


Adds up to $11,780,803 coming off the books.  That's a fair amount of cap space.

As for the expiring contracts of Derrick Rose, Alec Burks, Elfrid Payton, Reggie Bullock AND Taj Gibson? 

Adds up to $27,649,926 coming off the books.  That's a fair amount of cap space.

Total cap space opning up in 2021-2022: $39,430,729

Additionallly...

We have team options next season on Mitchell Robinson and Luca Vildoza AND Julius Randle. 

Frank Ntilikina is due for a qualifying offer in 2021-22; Kevin Knox in 2022-23. 

Our final obligation to the Phool Jackoff abortion known as Joakim Noah, which we stretched a couple of seasons back, comes off the books in the summer of 2022. 

Obviously, if we have designs on bringing back Rose, Burks, Noel, Bullock and Gibson [I'm going to make a wild guess here, and boldly predict Elfrid will not be back], redoing Mitchell's contract, extending Julius beyond the summer of 2022, it is going to cost us, and require some creative juggling of the books if we want to squirrel away monies for potential free agents in 2021-2022 and beyond. 

I'm not feeling Lonzo Ball.  I think he remains in New Orleans.  Kawhi Leonard?  Pass the peyote please.  If, God forbid, Al Horford was bought out, and could be had at vet's minimum or the MCE, even with Nerlens AND Mitchell AND Pelle, THAT would be something to look at.  Likewise if someone like Mike Conley could be had on the cheap.  I love Kyle Lowry, but given the money it would take, and what I perceive to be mutual interest on the part of the Knicks and--MINIMALLY--Rose, Burks, Noel, Bullock, some creative bookkeeping is in order to reward them for their contributions to the Knicks now and moving forward. 

With two first rounder and two second rounders [Pistons & Philly] this summer, I would expect all of those assets, and the plethora of future second rounders and the Dallas 2023 #1 pick to be in play, either to move up in the draft or to finesse a trade for assets, such as the much spoeculated notion of Memphis stretch 5-4 Jarfen Jackson Jr. 

There are a variety of intriguing connections that Jackson Jr. shares with the Knicks organization. Between the team hiring his father to become a G-League assistant coach along with his former agent at CAA, Leon Rose, being the the Knicks President of Basketball Operations, there’s plenty there.


I apologize for all of this premature speculation on the very doorstep of the PLAYOFFS, but DAWG's own speculations on how Vildoza's signing might have spooked Elfrid got me a-thinkin'



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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18848 on: May 18, 2021, 05:36:36 PM »

I'm not interested in making a big FA commitment this summer.  I would be happy with a one-year big offer to someone but I also want to bring back most of our own free agents on one-and-one deals where the 2nd year is a team option.  I want the team to retain cap flexibility to chase free agents in years to come.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18849 on: May 18, 2021, 05:55:19 PM »

Knix need to add a pretty good defender at PG for next year if Payton decides to leave
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18850 on: May 18, 2021, 08:16:49 PM »

Charlotte had a fun postseason. At least they still have the lottery to look forward to.
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Re: Coach of the year
« Reply #18851 on: May 18, 2021, 09:49:54 PM »



Great graphic. It actually took me a few minutes to find the Knicks.
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Re: Derrick Rose = Defense Rising?
« Reply #18852 on: May 18, 2021, 11:44:44 PM »

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/why-derrick-rose-will-always-be-tom-thibodeau-favorite-point-guard

This season, per Cleaning The Glass, Rose has the best plus/minus differential on the team at +9.4 points per 100 possessions. Strangely, though, all of this value — according to the numbers — is coming on the defensive end, where the Knicks are exactly 9.4 points per 100 possessions better with Rose on the floor than off. This is by far the best mark on the roster, and more than double the defensive impact of fellow former Chicago Bull Taj Gibson, who boasts the second-best defensive differential on the team and has been a menace off the bench on that end this season.

With a reputation firmly entrenched as an offensively-minded player, this implied defensive impact is more than a little jarring.



ahhhh....statistics.

One thing there can be no doubt about - ROSE was a GREAT add.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18853 on: May 19, 2021, 08:37:53 AM »

I see Celtics have won two Exec of the Year awards (Ainge '07-'08 the latest)

Knicks have yet to win one

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #18854 on: May 19, 2021, 10:26:32 AM »

I see Kid in the Corner got just 4 minutes last night for Boston

Will be interesting to see who they actually put on the court vs Nets

Joke going around yesterday was that Beal and Westbrook were left off the flight to Boston (thinking being that PHI is the desired foe to BKN)

Firs round series will be very interesting in both conferences.
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