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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19140 on: June 08, 2021, 12:34:39 AM »

Nunn over Payton, hell yes. Barton over Burks, hell no. Burks has more size, facilitates, and is just as sharp from deep. I suspect Burks is also the better defender though less naturally quick.

Nunn is definitely on the target list. Make Miami pay to keep him at the very least.

Ditto

Barton was kind of petulant about starting when Porter got his minutes.  Not interested in prima donnas like him and Schroeder.

Like Nunn.  A worker be who earned every minute and was given nothing.  Tough D and a terrific FT shooter.

Miami looking to max Butler and reup.Robinson. 

Nunn and Luca would give us good coverage at PG with Rose and Quick as combos, and RJ Burks-and-or-Bullock as big wings, if we keep one or both. 

I am not Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs for BIG STARS PURSUIT. 

Tell you what, if we could move up in the draft to get that sharpshooter from Gonzaga, the 6'7" wing, what's his name.

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« Reply #19141 on: June 08, 2021, 01:12:27 AM »

If the Knicks didn't have to over pay, your thoughts Facil.

Stats were kinda crappy this past season but he might just need the right setting. Athletic.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19142 on: June 08, 2021, 02:54:11 AM »

The last 3 years are promising if we think he can stay healthy. 16 mil ok. 13 mil a steal. 19 mil hard pass. His energy and aggression are nice. He still needs to make progress as a shooter. I think he’s more of a highlight defender than a fundamentally sound one. Can we fix this along with the shooting?
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« Reply #19143 on: June 09, 2021, 02:18:16 AM »

Did not see the Hawks Philly game but am curious: Did Ph not double Embid? What was he doing that JR was not? (other than being stronger and taller...)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19144 on: June 09, 2021, 02:45:47 AM »

Embid makes Capella look like Noel did against Capella.

The wimpier pivot = problems, still, to this day.
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« Reply #19145 on: June 09, 2021, 02:48:38 AM »

Embid v. Jokic is the finals series we want, and if we’re vaccinated is the series we deserve.

If you’re unvaccinated as a political statement, self-rapture already. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19146 on: June 09, 2021, 03:01:33 AM »

I have an off-season that I’d be plenty pleased with.

One trade, Kevin Knox + 19 + 21 to Houston for John Wall & their Lotto pick.

Then we resign as many as possible of our guys.

Mitch Noel Pelle
Randle Obi Taj
Barrett Bullock
Burks Quickley
Wall Rose Viladosa

LOTTO guy

Journeyman on the cheap or second rounder.

Done.

Roll em out.

We’re ready for the blood bath of a full season looking to be standing at the end.
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« Reply #19147 on: June 09, 2021, 07:40:10 AM »

Capella did not stop JR. the constant double teaming did. Are they not doubling on Embid?
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« Reply #19148 on: June 09, 2021, 10:30:31 AM »

Wall, when healthy, is a great talent. 

WHEN

HEALTHY

2016-2017 was the last season he played upwards of 78 games.

Next four?

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32
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https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walljo01.html

2016-2017: 23.1-4.2-10.7, .801 FT% [third season in a row with 10+plus assists

2020-2021: 20.6-3.2-6.9, .745 FT%

Not too shabby. 

It's those 32 games he missed that has me concerned. 

$ 44 Million, 47 Million for the next two seasons.

So much for cap space. 

Also, logically speaking...

By your reasoning, taking on his salary + Knox and our 19-21 picks is enough to get the Rockets to pass along the #1 pick in the draft and a shot at Cade Cunningham? 

Not feeling it. 

PS: I've seen Porzingis for Kemba floated in some circles. 

PPS: Tis the season to be jolly, I reckon. 
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Re: Wall
« Reply #19149 on: June 09, 2021, 11:37:37 AM »

Wall, when healthy, is a great talent. 

WHEN

HEALTHY

2016-2017 was the last season he played upwards of 78 games.

Next four?

41
32
ZIP
40

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walljo01.html

2016-2017: 23.1-4.2-10.7, .801 FT% [third season in a row with 10+plus assists

2020-2021: 20.6-3.2-6.9, .745 FT%

Not too shabby. 

It's those 32 games he missed that has me concerned. 

$ 44 Million, 47 Million for the next two seasons.

So much for cap space. 

Also, logically speaking...

By your reasoning, taking on his salary + Knox and our 19-21 picks is enough to get the Rockets to pass along the #1 pick in the draft and a shot at Cade Cunningham? 

Not feeling it. 

PS: I've seen Porzingis for Kemba floated in some circles. 

PPS: Tis the season to be jolly, I reckon.

If we are fantasizing about giving up both of our #1 picks and assets, assets meaning multiple assets more tasty than Kevin Knox, then my idea of taking on an insane contract is not John Wall, but Dame, in the unlikely event he becomes available. 

And HIS NUMBERS are off the map....

2021/22            2022/23            2023/24           2024/25
$43,750,000   $47,250,000   $50,750,000   $54,250,000

Still, all things being equal, while the pressure is on Leon to make a big, Big, BIG SPLASH, my hope is that we continue to be patient and prudent. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19150 on: June 09, 2021, 11:46:35 AM »

Did not see the Hawks Philly game but am curious: Did Ph not double Embid? What was he doing that JR was not? (other than being stronger and taller...)

Embiid played better

As did the combined Philly defense
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« Reply #19151 on: June 09, 2021, 11:48:44 AM »

Wall, when healthy, is a great talent. 

WHEN

HEALTHY

2016-2017 was the last season he played upwards of 78 games.

Next four?

41
32
ZIP
40

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walljo01.html

2016-2017: 23.1-4.2-10.7, .801 FT% [third season in a row with 10+plus assists

2020-2021: 20.6-3.2-6.9, .745 FT%

Not too shabby. 

It's those 32 games he missed that has me concerned. 

$ 44 Million, 47 Million for the next two seasons.

So much for cap space. 

Also, logically speaking...

By your reasoning, taking on his salary + Knox and our 19-21 picks is enough to get the Rockets to pass along the #1 pick in the draft and a shot at Cade Cunningham? 

Not feeling it. 

PS: I've seen Porzingis for Kemba floated in some circles. 

PPS: Tis the season to be jolly, I reckon.

If we are fantasizing about giving up both of our #1 picks and assets, assets meaning multiple assets more tasty than Kevin Knox, then my idea of taking on an insane contract is not John Wall, but Dame, in the unlikely event he becomes available. 

And HIS NUMBERS are off the map....

2021/22            2022/23            2023/24           2024/25
$43,750,000   $47,250,000   $50,750,000   $54,250,000

Still, all things being equal, while the pressure is on Leon to make a big, Big, BIG SPLASH, my hope is that we continue to be patient and prudent.

Current talk is we can have CP3 and give up no picks.

But Chris will have better options
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19152 on: June 09, 2021, 11:59:30 AM »

As for the draft, take a no freshman approach - take some seasoned guys

Johnny Juzang    6-6 wing
Jared Butler      6-3 combo
Charles Bassey  6-11  power

Yes, of course deal up (Kispert. Bouknight, Wagner) if you can
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« Reply #19153 on: June 09, 2021, 12:02:12 PM »

Capella did not stop JR. the constant double teaming did. Are they not doubling on Embid?

Sounds like you didnt see the kniks games either

Randle missed shots he made during the season - and turned the ball over carelessly at times.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #19154 on: June 09, 2021, 12:29:32 PM »

Nunn and Luca would give us good coverage at PG with Rose and Quick as combos, and RJ Burks-and-or-Bullock as big wings, if we keep one or both.


This is absolutely NOT GOOD ENOUGH at the PG spot
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