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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

CP3 opting out of his deal.  Will be a free agent, though maybe not for long.  PHX may just rework something quickly - assuming they dont just go with the recently blossoming leadership skills of D Booker and use the money elsewhere.

Knicks clearly zeroing in on BALL.  That would allow for a wild card go for the pure athlete or pure sniper pick in first round - rather than grabbing the PG (McBride or someone else)

Fun draft season ahead - including where does SUGGS go?  Suggs-Green-Kuminga-Mobley order.........is?

So, for today, Knick fans -

KISPERT OR MCBRIDE?

[chipstern]

Reggie Jackson?

[kidcarter8]

Went in the tank and didnt stay healthy after getting big bucks then resurfaced when seeking a deal/to save his career.

Reggie would help us in the same way Rose does

Likely he stays put in LA

[chipstern]

From The Mind Of Ian Begley

Trade Scenario #1: Trade RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, a 2021 first round pick, 2023 first-round pick, pick swaps for 2022 and 2024 for Damian Lillard

Fuck YOU

Christ.  Throw in Hershel Walker & Alan Weisselberg while you're at it. 

This is a Scotty Sterling Trade, an Isiah Thomas Trade, a Donnie Walsh Trade, a Glenn Grunwald Trade, a Steve Mills Trade. 

Make A Run At Lonzo Ball. 

See if Van Vleet money gets it done. 

Proving only that a substantial number of Knicks bloggers, beat writers and fans, have no sense of patience, no sense of history, no sense of proportion. 

One might even suggest that they are....

FUCKING IDIOTS. 

[chipstern]

From The Mind Of Ian Begley

Trade Scenario #1: Trade RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, a 2021 first round pick, 2023 first-round pick, pick swaps for 2022 and 2024 for Damian Lillard

Fuck YOU

Christ.  Throw in Hershel Walker & Alan Weisselberg while you're at it. 

This is a Scotty Sterling Trade, an Isiah Thomas Trade, a Donnie Walsh Trade, a Glenn Grunwald Trade, a Steve Mills Trade. 

Make A Run At Lonzo Ball. 

See if Van Vleet money gets it done. 

Proving only that a substantial number of Knicks bloggers, beat writers and fans, have no sense of patience, no sense of history, no sense of proportion. 

One might even suggest that they are....

FUCKING IDIOTS.

And I love DAME.  But this is Carmelo 2.0   FUCK YOU THRICE. 

[facilitatorn]

Trying to get on Dame’s Christmas list. Hard pass on that deal. It’s a joke.

[chipstern]

Kevin Chouinard: Danilo Gallinari was asked who would be Bucks’ leader if Giannis can’t go tonight: “I think that if you ask my daughter this question – and she is 7 months (old) – she is going to give you the right answer: Jrue Holiday and Khris Middleton.”

[chipstern]

Trying to get on Dame’s Christmas list. Hard pass on that deal. It’s a joke.

I don't believe that is how Leon Rose is wired.  Nor THIBS.  What Knicks management and coaching staff did last year, the patience, the prudence, paid serious dividends. 

Can you picture Thibs turning beet purple when asked his thoughts on RJ being traded?

As for MASS DUMPS of #1 Picks?

My GOD.  Been there.  Done that. 

Looking for a nanosecond at your fave team, the Atlanta Hawks. 

Onyeka Okongwu, 20 [#6 pick, 2020] C/PF
DeAndre Hunter, 23 [#4 pick, 2019] SF/PF
Cam Reddish, 21 [#10 pick, 2019] SF/PF
Trae Young, 22 [#5 pick, 2018] PG
Kevin Huerter, 22 [#18 pick, 2018] SG/SF
John Collins, 23 [#19 pick, 2017] PF

And we all know about their vets, acquired through trades and free agency: Capella [27], Gallinari [32], Bogdonavich [28], Williams [34], Snell [29], Hill [30].

I could 12.  Twelve DEEP.  And a core of six very young, very talented players. 

And Ian Begley and the rest of these dubious douche devices is okay with trading our three [pick 'em] of our best YOUNG players and multiple #1 draft picks.  RJ [21].  IQ [22].  Obi [23]. Mitchell [23]. 

Randle is going to be 27; Vildoza is going to be 26.  Pelle is 28. 

French Frank and Kevin are also VERY YOUNG, though it would be surprising if both/either of them are back. 

A "HARD NO"

Again, I love DAME.  Great player.  Great competitor.  Great character. 

He is 30, which admittedly ain't all that old.  One could make a case that he is IN HIS PRIME. 

However, trading away the equivalent of FIVE #1 picks, and freezing upwards of 40-50% of our future cap space on someone who will be pulling down $54,250,000 in 2024-2025 [$43,750,000 $47,250,000,   $50,750,000, $54,250,000]. 

The Hawks were patient and purposeful, and now they have a very deep, very young roster, and look to be VERY COMPETITIVE for the immediate future. 

PATIENCE.  DRAFT PICKS.  Judicious Use Of Cap Space. 

[kidcarter8]

Make no mistake - ALL named are tradeable - if the right deal surfaced.

[kidcarter8]

Randle is going to be 27; Vildoza is going to be 26.  Pelle is 28.

French Frank and Kevin are also VERY YOUNG, though it would be surprising if both/either of them are back.

Oh My God -

Chip - I used to enjoy tossing ideas back and forth with you - appreciated your knowledge -

but you have LOST YOUR SHIT

[facilitatorn]

I don't believe that is how Leon Rose is wired.  Nor THIBS.  What Knicks management and coaching staff did last year, the patience, the prudence, paid serious dividends. 

I was talking about Begely.

[facilitatorn]

Mr. Bobby stepped in & stepped up to put Milwaukee ahead. Nice game from their adjusted first 5.

[Kam]

French Frank and Kevin are also VERY YOUNG, though it would be surprising if both/either of them are back. 

I don't see where Knox is gonna go.  Maybe there's a huge trade out there and he is one of the "young assets" moved but I think that's unlikely.  He would have to be a throw in within a trade of a much better asset like RJ or Randle and I don't see the Knicks trading either RJ or Randle. 

Moving Knox as a standalone -- i don't think you get more than a 2nd rounder in return.

So i think it's a high probability... like 70%+ that Knox remains.

[carlos123]

Thankfully, he only has one year left on his contract.

OTOH, getting a second rounder for Knox? Not too bad, one never knows. Think of Mitch Robinson.


- Chamaco's Patriotism is only for the white race. -

[facilitatorn]

French Frank and Kevin are also VERY YOUNG, though it would be surprising if both/either of them are back. 

I don't see where Knox is gonna go.  Maybe there's a huge trade out there and he is one of the "young assets" moved but I think that's unlikely.  He would have to be a throw in within a trade of a much better asset like RJ or Randle and I don't see the Knicks trading either RJ or Randle. 

Moving Knox as a standalone -- i don't think you get more than a 2nd rounder in return.

So i think it's a high probability... like 70%+ that Knox remains.

Knox gives salary ballast to a deal mainly about picks going with him as part of a larger deal for a more expensive piece we can absorb into our space, either as a straight trade our as our end of a S&T also creating an exception for the other party.

Not saying it does happen. Just saying if it does, it could happen like that.