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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[carlos123]

Boycott on

Enjoy the Finals, boys.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/06/espn-sits-rachel-nichols-for-nba-finals-over-maria-taylor-comments.html

Chamaco, we really don't care what you do.
I bet ESPN feels about the same.
I was gonna suggest you get lost, but thinking it over, no, not really. We have fun sometimes with your stupidity.

- Chamaco's Patriotism is only for the white race. -

[facilitatorn]

Boycott on

Enjoy the Finals, boys.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/06/espn-sits-rachel-nichols-for-nba-finals-over-maria-taylor-comments.html

Chamaco, we really don't care what you do.
I bet ESPN feels about the same.
I was gonna suggest you get lost, but thinking it over, no, not really. We have fun sometimes with your stupidity.

- Chamaco's Patriotism is only for the white race. -

Your suggestion would be about 60 years too late, Carlos. He done done it. The question is if he can ever get found again.

[bankshot1]

Nothing against the Bucks but I'd like to see the Sun's lose their championship cherry.

[Kam]

Boycott on

Enjoy the Finals, boys.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/06/espn-sits-rachel-nichols-for-nba-finals-over-maria-taylor-comments.html

Nobody comes off looking good.  Not Nichols, Not Mendelson, Not ESPN, and not Taylor, in roughly that order of not goodness.

[chipstern]

BANK.  Yes, I am pulling for the Suns as well.  CP3, Booker, Ayton comprise a real BIG 3.  MONTY's leadership. 

Surely impressed with Jrue Holiday, Brook Lopez, Khris Middleton, Giannis, PJ, BoDiddley Personal Pinyata Bobby Portis and those white boy sharpshooters. 

Watching Phoenix dominate in the second half, was reflecting on both their good luck and prudent sense of patiently assembling building blocks and nurturing them in a mature system, coming to fruition with MONTY the arrival of CP3 and the competitive urgency of their homegrown star, Booker. 

They were patient, they drafted well, they didn't cash in their young assets and draft capital for SHINY OBJECTS and their veteran acquisitions Paul and Crowder were perfect complements to their youth.   

Sixth Man Cameron Johnson an impressive performer at PF and SF, playing D, nailing his long jumper and free throws.  The Suns converted much heralded #6 pick Jarrett Culver into Johnson and PF/C Dario Saric back in 2019. They would have appear to have gotten the better of the T-Wolves.   

In 2018, the Knicks passed on Villanova's 3&D mainstay Mikal Bridges to roll the dice on Kevin Knox' upside, and Bridges fell into the Sixers laps.  Somehow, INEXPLICABLY, the Suns got the Sixers to exchange Bridges for Zhaire Smith and, in a belief in one's self roll of the dice, Phoenix's 2021 #1 pick.  Haven't seen this reflected in mocks, but, WTF, you can pencil in Bridges for 30 minutes a night for the next decade. 

Of course, Devvin

Oh, and in 2018, they added that Ayton fellow with the #1 pick in the draft.  He has put up consistent numbers, and in this his third season, he has raised the level of his team game and court vision. 

Props to GM James Jones, Coach Monty Williams, 2015 #1 pick Devin Booker [the #13 pick, Cameron Payne was the #14 pick and here he is] and Captain Chris Paul.  Great team work and balance, focused D, not to mention all of those MID RANGE JUMPERS. 

Worth noting that we played the Suns quite tough in our first meeting, and got nuked in the second half of our rubber game. 

PS: Thibs beat out Monty for coach of the year, based one would presume on doing more with less. 

[facilitatorn]

When you have a CP there are always questions about how important the coach actually is. I wouldn’t of hated seeing Monty get the award. Glad it was Thibs though.

Isiah Mobley heads back to USC with a to do list and some space to hold down in the frontcourt.

The Belgian is in as a 6’9” skinny wing.

[chipstern]

July 25

Argentina vs. France

[facilitatorn]

July 25

Argentina vs. France

Frank v. Luca

Bring it.

[kidcarter8]

They were patient, they drafted well, they didn't cash in their young assets and draft capital for SHINY OBJECTS and their veteran acquisitions Paul and Crowder were perfect complements to their youth.   

Sixth Man Cameron Johnson an impressive performer at PF and SF, playing D, nailing his long jumper and free throws.  The Suns converted much heralded #6 pick Jarrett Culver into Johnson and PF/C Dario Saric back in 2019. They would have appear to have gotten the better of the T-Wolves.   

Might wish to take a closer look

OKC did real well in the Paul swap.

Suns are tough - no doubt.  If Paul opts out.....

....unless he re-signs....

,,,,and that would be for big coin

WIN IT ALL and they can bray, surely.  But the Suns did give capital, surely.

[chipstern]

After the Thunder got paid by the Houston Rockets to take on Chris Paul prior to the 2019-20 season, he thrived in Oklahoma City as his trade value jumped significantly. After just one season in OKC, Paul had once again established himself as one of the top point guards in the entire NBA.

However, after his first season with the Thunder, they officially kicked off their rebuild and needed to get assets for Paul while his value was as high as it was. While several teams showed interest in the services of the veteran point guard, the Phoenix Suns ultimately pulled the trigger on acquiring him.

In the middle of November, just over one month before the start of the 2020-21 season, the Thunder would receive Kelly Oubre, Ricky Rubio, Ty Jerome, Jalen Lecque and a 2022 first-round pick in exchange for Paul and Abdel Nader.

From there, Thunder GM Sam Presti would further flip the assets he received for Paul In secondary moves.

Lecque was traded to the Indiana Pacers for T.J. Leaf (who was later waived) and a 2027 second-round pick.

Oubre was sent to the Golden State Warriors for a heavily protected 2021 first-round pick that ultimately would convey as a very early second rounder (via Minnesota).

Rubio was packaged in a three-team deal with two late first-round picks as Oklahoma City moved up to No. 17 in the 2020 NBA Draft to take Aleksej Pokusevski. The Thunder also received James Johnson and a 2024 second-round pick in the deal. Johnson would go on to be traded in a three-team deal that netted OKC Trevor Ariza, Justin Jackson (who was waived during the 2020-21 season) and two future second-round picks. From there, Ariza would later be traded to the Miami Heat for Myers Leonard (who would be waived) and yet another future second rounder.

When it was all said and done, Presti was able to work multiple trades that ultimately resulted in Chris Paul being flipped for quite the haul.

Ty Jerome
Aleksej Pokusevski
2021 SRP (MIN)
2022 FRP (PHX)
2023 SRP (MIA/DAL)
2024 SRP (MIN)
2026 SRP (DAL)
2027 SRP (MIA)
2027 SRP (IND)
Getting two young cornerstones in Pokusevski and Jerome along with one first-round pick and six second-round picks was worth the deal for the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Nicely done by Presti.  Flipping assets for a host of Second rounders, not unlike Leon Rose, WWW, Perry & Perrin in NY. 

And in the end what did Phoenix surrender?

* A late 2022 First Rounder. 

* Kelly Oubre who was rendered expendable by Mikal Bridges.

* Ricky Rubio was was rendered irrelevant by CP3 and expendable by Cameron Payne. 

* Ty Jerome, a big shooting guard with a nice stroke and a lot of upside, who was not going to see significant playing time behind Trevor Booker. 

So Phoenix assembled some talent to bring back CP3, but in the larger scheme of things, SPARE PARTS.  Oubre a talent, but a talent who was due to be an unrestricted free agent in 2021.

So, not exactly a heist, but a Serious Slam Dunk for Suns GM James Jones. 

[kidcarter8]

Ty Jerome is a combo guard, a national champion.

Had a 13.5 PER in '20-'21

[chipstern]

Chris Paul Is An ASSASSIN. 

[kidcarter8]

Team getting the star usually has done best.  I think the underrating of Ayton was most significant in the perceived "surprise" Suns season (JALEN wanted DeAndre over Love for the Olympic team).  And happy to see some join me in admiration of Cam Payne, who the forum shit on a couple years back.

[Kam]

Interesting little tidbit to chew on, there's potentially another shoe dropping in the Porzingis deal:

The Mavericks traded two first-round picks to the Atlanta Hawks in the Luka Doncic deal. The Stepien Rule prevents NBA teams from shipping out their first-round pick two years in a row. Dallas owed their 2019 first-rounder to Atlanta, meaning the two they sent to New York had to start in 2021.


The Mavericks decided to trade the Knicks an unprotected first in 2021, but put a top ten protection on their 2023 selection. The reasoning made sense. Dallas had missed the playoffs two straight years and were well on their way to a third. There were no guarantees Porzingis would stay healthy or Doncic would become a superstar. The Mavs could still miss the playoffs in 2023.

The protection has hamstrung them in making future moves. It prevents Dallas from trading their 2025 pick because they may owe 2024 instead of 2023. The Mavericks would love to be able to deal their 2025 and 2027 picks this summer as they look to improve their roster. To do so, they will have to get the Knicks to agree to remove the protection, which will likely cost Dallas a second-round pick, at minimum.

The Dallas Mavericks must be careful protecting draft picks going forward because it limits their ability to make moves.

[facilitatorn]

Offer Dallas our later second rounder and Knox for Brunson. Draft Chris Duarte, Tre Murphy III, and Makur Maker. Bring back Rose, Bullock, Burks, and Taj.

Mitch Taj Pelle
Randle Obi Makur
RJ Bullock Murphy
Burks Quickley Duarte
Rose Brunson Viladosa