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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kidcarter8]

Carmelo Anthony (4 Olympic medals) not being in Tokyo is like when asshole women's soccer coach wanted to cut Carly Lloyd.

[facilitatorn]

On the eve of draft week, I’d like Murphy III, Mann, and Bassey. I’d be willing to move the last pick and a future second or two and possibly eat some salary to get it done.

[kidcarter8]

As it sits now - and with this mock (using players available when we pick)

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2021

I take

JACKSON   https://www.nbadraft.net/players/isaiah-jackson/
BUTLER     https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jared-butler/
WIESKAMP  https://www.nbadraft.net/players/joe-wieskamp/

[kidcarter8]

And if we still have 58, fuck it -

MAC MCCLUNG, though I also like BRYANT REAVES





Heh

Could have had him

[bodiddley]

Mocks I've seen nonsensically have Knix taking PF's such as Garuba and Kai Jones.  Maybe these are "positionless" mocks, but it makes zero sense to list Knix as selecting a PF, unless we're moving Randle and/or Obi.  (I still have no idea why Knix drafted a PF last year).

Knix of course looking to package the two picks and move up.
Also could package Franc or Knox with the 19 or 21 to move up higher.
Try to get into the Giddy, Davion Mitchell, Kispert range.

If the Knix do keep both 1st round picks (ie no trade works out), a few PG's are listed in the 20's.  Jared Butler, Sharife don't like it Cooper, Tre Mann.  And scoring G's such as Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas.  All would seem to fill a need.  What do folks think of those prospects?

PG's in the 20's are by definition hit or miss.  Knix have tried it with Jerian Grant (with okayish Delon Wright on board) and other times with Frankie Fly, Toney D, Mardy Collins.   But occasionally you can get a Rondo, Lowry, DeJounte Murray.  Brogdan and Brunson were high 2nd rounders.

This year's draft resembles last year's when Maxey, Quickly, Pritchard, Malachi Flynn went from 21-29.  While strong shooters Saddiq Bey #19 & Des Bane #30 were available.  Knix only need to get a PG who can replace Elf as backup PG, with potential upside to become a starter. 

19 & 21 -- a ballhandler/passer & a shooter. 
Though likely NYK trade up.  I like Franc + #19 for a lower lottery slot.
And then still pick at #21 in what seems a quality/deep draft.

[kidcarter8]

Hey, Bo - hope all is well

Tough call for me between Isaiah Jackson and PGs McBride and Hyland at 19.

Moving up still preferred if we could land a Kispert or even a Josh Giddey or Jonathan Kuminga

Imagine adding this talent:

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/josh-giddey/

[facilitatorn]

Bo! Wonderful to see you post.

We can’t do anything with Frank at the moment due to his free agency.

Sweetener or ballast type contracts in no particular order are last year’s rooks, Knox, Luca, and Pelle.

Mitch, Randle, RJ seem to be the current core of the core of our group to be kept out of everything but the biggest deals. 

[chipstern]

Mocks I've seen nonsensically have Knix taking PF's such as Garuba and Kai Jones.  Maybe these are "positionless" mocks, but it makes zero sense to list Knix as selecting a PF, unless we're moving Randle and/or Obi.  (I still have no idea why Knix drafted a PF last year).

Knix of course looking to package the two picks and move up.
Also could package Franc or Knox with the 19 or 21 to move up higher.
Try to get into the Giddy, Davion Mitchell, Kispert range.

If the Knix do keep both 1st round picks (ie no trade works out), a few PG's are listed in the 20's.  Jared Butler, Sharife don't like it Cooper, Tre Mann.  And scoring G's such as Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas.  All would seem to fill a need.  What do folks think of those prospects?

PG's in the 20's are by definition hit or miss.  Knix have tried it with Jerian Grant (with okayish Delon Wright on board) and other times with Frankie Fly, Toney D, Mardy Collins.   But occasionally you can get a Rondo, Lowry, DeJounte Murray.  Brogdan and Brunson were high 2nd rounders.

This year's draft resembles last year's when Maxey, Quickly, Pritchard, Malachi Flynn went from 21-29.  While strong shooters Saddiq Bey #19 & Des Bane #30 were available.  Knix only need to get a PG who can replace Elf as backup PG, with potential upside to become a starter. 

19 & 21 -- a ballhandler/passer & a shooter. 
Though likely NYK trade up.  I like Franc + #19 for a lower lottery slot.
And then still pick at #21 in what seems a quality/deep draft.

[chipstern]

I really would love Duarte, who checks all the boxes for size, shooting, defense and leadership. 

Would be surprised to see him sitting their at #19. 

Likewise Trey Murphy, who at 6'9" would be something of a dream date at SF, and while still maturing on defense, checks all the other boxes. 

He is on the rise an likely a goner at #19. 

There is a good chance 6'10" Kentucky center Isaiah Jackson could be sitting there, offering depth an defense at C-PF, in the event, rather likely, that Nerlens follows the money.  Mitchell insurance.   

That makes a certain amount of sense. 

However, like BoD, I am baffled by projections of more bigs.

Jared Butler, a 6'3 PG out of Baylor, is a fierce defender and competitor, a knock down shooter coming off of a championship run.  If he is sitting there at #21, I bite. 

One projection I read at #32, has Sharife Cooper, PG from Auburn being on the board.  I doubt he falls that far.  Tre Mann is highly regarded as a shooter, not so much as a facilitator. 

There appear to be a surfeit of second tier PG/Combos, like a Maxey or Quickley. 

We shall see. 

[elephant]

If the Knix do keep both 1st round picks (ie no trade works out), a few PG's are listed in the 20's.  Jared Butler, Sharife don't like it Cooper, Tre Mann.  And scoring G's such as Bones Hyland, Cam Thomas.  All would seem to fill a need.  What do folks think of those prospects?

I pointed out some weeks back that I've seen a ton of Bones Hyland playing for VCU. He's great. But his build and game is strikingly similar to IQ. Makes NO sense to have both.

If you're trading IQ, okay. But if I had to choose between the two — and forecast who will have the best future — I'd go with the kid who already proved himself last season.

[lesterluv]

ESPN announced on Wednesday that NBA and NFL analyst and host Maria Taylor is officially leaving the network. According to the statement released by ESPN, Taylor and the network couldn’t come to an agreement on a contract extension. Her final assignment was Tuesday night’s coverage of Game 6 of the NBA Finals. – via Liz Roscher @ Yahoo! Sports



heh

https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2021-07-23/nbc-quickly-hires-maria-taylor-after-her-departure-from-espn

So she moves WAY UP ...only thing higher is World Cup, let's see if NBC gets the rights after '26, lol


*** once again, assclown can't be more wrong, though apparently ESPN still smarting from "the boycott"

[lesterluv]

Bo! Wonderful to see you post.

Apparently Zach's "posse" had him locked up for a few months in a Trap House just outside of Gary, Indiana.

I made the call. Got him let go.

Welcome Back Bo!

[Kam]

Welcome back Bo!

I too am going to guess that Noel will be too expensive to retain and we will want some insurance behind Mitch and Taj.
In an ideal draft we get our PG and SF in the first round and draft a C with the #32 pick. 
Vernon Carey was the #32 last year and he made under 1.5 mil. 
I think that's what most modern "moneyball' front offices would like to spend on their backup C.

I'm also curious to see if Randle and OBI can co-exist. Toppin actually pairs well with other big men.

But since it seems likely that Murphy will be gone by 19 I wouldn't mind seeing the Knicks move up to get him.
In which case we find a PG in free agency.

[chipstern]

Memphis and New Orleans do the desl.

[lesterluv]

absolute tippy tippy toppy of her profession! tippy tippy tippy tippy toppy! Well done....