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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

A lot of high picks are getting dinged up.

The best ability is availability.

[bodiddley]

If we drafted TyH, then I was advocating for FVV and not Bog as a FA.  Bog & tyH similar players.

I still don't get the ObiT pick.
Randle is a one position PF, so we used a high pick for another one position PF.
Essentially drafting a backup with a high pick.
Aside from Chip's nonsense that ObiT can become a Taj-like player, ObiT is not a fill-in C or SF.  And is not court compatible with Julius.

So we are either content having a purely backup PF, or ObiT is a trade asset.  (I saw a claim on cbsports that Knix brought in Fournier as a trade piece, readying for a Lillard or other star package).

These days, teams are looking for multi-position guys who can switch on D in this PnR league.  While plenty of capable PF's are available every year.  Christian Wood, Markk, Jer Grant, Milsap, Olynyk, Batum, A Gordon, Crowder, Covington, etc at varying prices, mostly between the two MLE ranges.  And others on the low end down to vet min: Tank, Paschall, JaMike, Saric, Bjelica, DJ Wilson.

Point being, backup PF is an easy slot to fill, either on the cheap on up to $10M-$12M (or Gallo for $20M!).  Especially for guys who are only PF's and not multi-positional.  Stuck behind Randle, it's hard to see how ObiT can up his value much. And the 2nd unit ObiT is on is full of scorers in Quix / Rose / Burks, so that likely limits Toppings as well.  Free ObiT!

[bodiddley]

Two sweet treys and a steal.
Admittedly a rather small sample.  Though surely enough for  BoD to dismiss him.

I'd look at form more than whether they go down.

Then again I recall seeing Kevin Martin live in a pre-season SAC-HOU game in SH, and despite his weird form, he was lights out, and you could tell he'd have a 10 year NBA career, despite being the #26 pick.

Sometimes it's fun to make quick judgments. 

I recall seeing Kurt Hinrich in something like his 3rd NBA game.  A skinny kid starting at PG.  And at one point, he got double-teamed in the corner, forced to pick up his dribble. With the trap on top of him, Kurt wasn't even visible.  Then he slithered his torso between the defenders and made a clean pass.  And suddenly the Bulls had a 4 on 3 transition advantage.   And I thought, okay the kid is solid, knows how to play, didn't get rattled.  Will have a solid career.  Was a starter for 11 years.

Feel for the game is important.  Which is why it was clear that Jordan Hill was a mirage.  (still the only player I know who looked bad in his own college highlight reel!).

[kiidcarter8]

On Toppin

At 8, Knicks were looking for a knock it out of the park pick - a sensation

Felt Obi had more of a chance than Ty or others

Had little to do with position.

[kiidcarter8]

16.3 career PER for J Hill

Maxed at 19+

You go on liking what you like, Bo.

[bodiddley]

Jordan Hill:
4 teams in 7 years (leaving off his final year at MIN where he played just 7 games). Out of the League at 29.  Solid offensive rebounder.

Had one year where he was a fulltime starter for LAL.
Hill only got that opportunity because Julius Randle broke his leg 14 minutes into his career.  That team won 21 games.  With Old Kobe returning midseason from his Achilles rupture and shooting terribly.
Next year Hill was in IND.  Then gone.

Interestingly, Jordan Hill is cousins with Devin Booker, both from the Carolinas.

[kiidcarter8]

Google Steve Nash + Jordan Hill

Torn hip labrum cost 2/3 season.

Off court issues after the 107 mph speeding ticket?  Not sure.

Left Lakers with player option.  LA may have been the place to stay.

[chipstern]

[chipstern]

[kiidcarter8]

OMG

Quickley TRYING to run a team

Fugggggly.

[kiidcarter8]

Knicks dodged a bullet - Killian Hayes is another CP.




- Can't play

[carlos123]

Just thought your pic was missing a little something...

[kidcarter8]

Impressed tonight with Selden, McBride, Grimes and of course Toppin.

[facilitatorn]

Kiid is just getting used to his post-trump role as a violated rectum. He’s available if you know someone who needs a place to stub out a cigarette or hock a really thick gob of spit. He doesn’t expect to make as much as Giuliani does on Cameo, but losers take what they can get.

Spirited effort from Obi against the Pistons, despite very shaky games from Quick and McBride. We really missed Sims. Any report on why he was out?

[facilitatorn]

Watching Ried Travis play basketball is like listening to Kiid trying to have a conversation. It just doesn’t go well and no one ever wants it to happen again.