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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20715 on: October 09, 2021, 10:32:08 PM »

No Randle.  No Mitch.

No problem.

The Wiz are still pretty weak.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20716 on: October 09, 2021, 10:40:02 PM »

No Randle.  No Mitch.

No problem.

The Wiz are still pretty weak.

Well, they are better than they showed.  Without Hashimura.  And neither Dimwiddie nor Beal played starters' minutes.  But in all fairness to our crew, we didn't let Pope tee off on us. 

We took Toppin over Avdija.  So far so good. 

Harrell [18-10] and Jericho really went at each other, and while the vet schooled our puppy had Sims did not back down, with 13 boards, 7 points, and assist, 3 steals and a block. 
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« Reply #20717 on: October 10, 2021, 04:09:14 AM »

I wonder what the longest extension we can give Sims is. Whatever it is, we should offer it.

The Warriors just waived Langston Galloway. OAKAAK. Someone should pick him up, but it is nice the Knick do not have room.

Detroit next.

Onward

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The Balls Of Jericho
« Reply #20718 on: October 10, 2021, 10:52:58 AM »

Jericho has a ways to go, but he competes. 

Hard. 

Him and Harrell shared a hug at game's end. 

Still think it makes sense to 2-way him this season. 

We can still bring him up for 50 games and he can get minutes in the G League. 

Happy moment when he shocked Clyde with a baby hook, showing something other than the lob and load. 

Love his chill demeanor.  Thought he was bigger than 6'9" but that's Harrell-Adebayo country. 

Was happy for Kevin out there.  Let the charge up San Juan Hill. 

And Rose?  DAMN.  Life does have second acts.  Even third acts.

PS: Once again, QUENTIN GRIMES.  That was impressive.  Come in ice fucking cold and knock down a pair of threes like you are walking the dog. 

PPS: For XMAS Chip would like a healthy Mitchell, adding a baby hook and a short jumper to his muscle mass.  Something to confound Capella. 

PPPS: While Planet Earth was napping, RJ turned into a pretty good shooter.  Speaking of BALLS. 
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« Reply #20719 on: October 10, 2021, 10:53:50 AM »

You look at DRose's stat line, and recalling his masterful performance last year. He is such a total pro. I hope his teammates are watching and listening.
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10 Man Rotation + 1
« Reply #20720 on: October 10, 2021, 11:29:35 AM »

RJ: 18 PTS (4-8 3PT)
D-Rose: 15 PTS (3-3 3PT) | 8 AST
Obi: 13 PTS | 8 REB | 2 BLK
Evan: 14 PTS
KW: 6 PTS | 4 AST | 4 REB
Kev: 12 PTS (4-6 3PT)
Quick: 11 PTS | 3 AST
Jericho: 7 PTS | 13 REB | 3 STL
Taj: 8 PTS | 6 REB
Q-Dot: 6 PTS (2-2 3PT)
AB: 7 PTS | 4 REB
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« Reply #20721 on: October 10, 2021, 11:43:12 AM »

Randle out for personal reasons.

ObiT and Knox expected to get long run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGQ_6dgIClE
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20722 on: October 10, 2021, 10:13:28 PM »

CBSports has 5 Knix in there Top 100 players:
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Top 100 players: Julius Randle (44), Kemba Walker (60), Evan Fournier (94), Derrick Rose (97), R.J. Barrett (100)
Though Fournier, Rose, RJB all the the very back end.

One of 6 teams with 5; POR the most with 6.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-top-100-player-rankings-a-team-by-team-breakdown-blazers-with-most-for-2021-22-lakers-in-middle-of-pack/

Just looked at the team-by-team breakdown, not the whole 100 list.
But Seth Curry at #70?  Joe Harris #79?
Looks like they overvalue shooting.
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« Reply #20723 on: October 10, 2021, 11:04:10 PM »

Joe Harris is quite quite good
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20724 on: October 11, 2021, 08:23:12 AM »

David Aldridge:  I have written this on Simmons to Sac before, and the rationale still holds. Simmons is an elite defensive player. He is an elite passer. He has four years left on his deal. (He would have no problem going to Sacramento, I am told, so strong is his desire to get out of Philadelphia.) The Kings were historically bad defensively last season. Simmons would not be a savior, but with him and Fox and whichever one of Haliburton or Mitchell the Kings kept in this scenario, Sac would suddenly become a problem defensively, wildly switchable and able to get from defense to offense in a heartbeat. They would not shoot as good without Hield, but they had Hield last year and went 31-41. What are we talking about? Given his offensive limitations, Simmons would not be a savior wherever he goes, including Sacramento. (Of course, he would not be on the block if he did not have these limitations).  But he is the kind of talent the Kings would never have a chance of getting in free agency.  It would be a chancy deal for a new front office to make. but it would be worth the risk to me.
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« Reply #20725 on: October 11, 2021, 11:09:54 AM »

I'm going to adjust my Knicks win total to 48 wins.
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« Reply #20726 on: October 11, 2021, 11:30:52 AM »

Saw a quote where They Call Me MISTER THIBS indicated that he would engage in some small ball this season with Julius at the 5, which is interesting, as it opens up possibilities of deploying Obi/Kevin at the 4, perhaps if Knox continues to drain those corner threes, Obi at the 4 and Kevin at the 3. 

Remains to be seen. 

That Mister Thibs is even consider triggering such an option, bespeaks his commitment to upping the pace/tempo of the game and significantly increasing the number of treys [helps to have a platoon of Kemba and Derrick to break down the D and make good reads]. 

And obviously, it signals a dramatic uptick in confidence in Obi Toppin's evolution on both sides of the ball, now that with a summer of hard work and purposeful coaching behind him, we are beginning to see the player Leon Rose committed to in his first draft as the Knicks Major Domo. 

PS: I think we are seeing the player Leon thought we were getting when he and the brain trust went all in on Evan Fournier over Reggie Bullock [not sure we were uninterested in bringing Bullock back, but in prioritizing Evan, that window of hesitation motivated Reggie to go with the Mavs, where his role as a catch and shoot specialist and potential minutes were more clearly defined, while in NY he would be looking for minutes next to/behind Evan and RJ as well as Burks].  His three point prowess, ability to create off of the dribble, and free throw shooting efficiency have all been as advertised, but for me, his most significant contribution has been to improved team coherence and efficiency, that is to say enhanced ball movement. moving without the ball, and in the RED HOLZMAN TRADITION, finding the open man.  Two plays REALLY stand out.  Against Indiana, Fournier was in the corner, well covered, and instead of forcing a three, he made his way down the bassline, drew the coverage under the basket, and shoveled a sweet pass to a rolling Gibson for a layup.  Against the Wizards, he got the ball at the top of the key, and began probing the defense, heading towards the basket, presumably looking for his short midrange jumper, but when the double came, he hit a cutting Obi on the baseline with a perfect pass for an emphatic rim rocker. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20727 on: October 11, 2021, 12:31:16 PM »

Before Saturday night, the Knicks had never attempted more than 51 threes in a game and had never made more than 20 of those attempts. Against the Wizards, they did both, launching 52 bombs and landing 24.

It was preseason, so the previous records will still stand, but nonetheless, it
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« Reply #20728 on: October 11, 2021, 02:19:22 PM »

Simmons would not be a savior, but with him and Fox and whichever one of Haliburton or Mitchell the Kings kept in this scenario, Sac would suddenly become a problem defensively, wildly switchable and able to get from defense to offense in a heartbeat. They would not shoot as good without Hield, but they had Hield last year and went 31-41.

So he thinks some sort of Hield + Haliburton package would be enough?

And doesn't mention the problematic nature of a Fox-Simmons pairing.
Both need the ball, neither a good outside shooter.  While losing their two of their best 3-point shooters, Hield and TyH.   Holmes and Bagley don't have range either.  A starting 5 with one shooter (Barnes)?

And then PHI has to rely on TyH and Maxey as their PG's?
All pretty iffy, as well as relying on low impact Hield.

My Fox/Simmons swap seems the obvious solution ...
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« Reply #20729 on: October 11, 2021, 06:39:31 PM »

Both need the ball, neither a good outside shooter.  While losing their two of their best 3-point shooters, Hield and TyH.   Holmes and Bagley don't have range either.  A starting 5 with one shooter (Barnes)?


Davion can shoot

So can Terrence Davis.

You have to comb rosters before being so sure of your comments

I dont think Simmons needs the ball.
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