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Rumble Young Man, Rumble
« Reply #22335 on: January 16, 2022, 05:10:19 PM »

Hard to do without a PG ...

Interesting game.
Fourneir and Burks reasserted themselves when the Knix needed some extra scoring.
RJB is in a nice groove.  Randle rumbled around.

Bottom line: Hawks a poor defensive team.  Gave up open 3's, forays into the paint and fouled -- letting the Knix score form everywhere.

Gallo was making some big shots, but his D was feeble (for some reason wanting Randle to drive left) and some funky turnovers. 

Game ended and some Hawks, notably Hunter went over to chat with Reddish.  The Knix 2nd unit razzed Knox, the starters presumably didn't know him.  Seemed like ObiT stuck around the longest chatting with Knox.Knox basically unplayable until they get Capela back.  They can't put another weak defender out there. 

If many of the Hawks are etting tired of the Trae Show, Nate should let Bogdan run some possessions, somewhat like the Kings did with TyH (before making him the de facto PG).  Collins and Hunter need to be more involved in the O.  They can score.  And if everybody is a threat, then Huerter and Trae will get some easy open looks.
TRae - Bogdan - Hunter - Collins - Capela
That should be a powerhouse starting unit. Yeah, guys have missed time with injuries and viral issues, but they need cohesion.  And I don't see ditching Reddish as any help ...

Interesting alliterative touch. 

Rumbler had 9 assists.  Spent much of the first quarter empowering his team mates. 

Big second quarter.

Key offensive rebound and put back under the hoop, under duress, at the point the Hawks were pressing to within a basket of overtaking us. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22336 on: January 16, 2022, 05:35:23 PM »

Randle holding back early and setting the table with passes, screens, and clears gives the team that game planned against him to focus more on all the other things the lineup can do and less on that plan while he saves energy and they spend it. If that is established in the first quarter he has plenty of time to monster as the game evolves and have more juice still in his tank to positively impact key moments.

I think the Hawks see their newer Dukie adequately replacing Reddish if not Collins as well. It would be a pretty good break for them if he did. They could make one more move that clears their ladder and lands them a future asset.

Will our second unit D be defined by Grimes Reddish talent or Toppin Reddish miscues?
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« Reply #22337 on: January 16, 2022, 05:51:13 PM »

C: Robinson, Noel, Sims

PF-C: Randle, Gibson

SF-PF: Reddish, Samanic

SF-SG: Barrett, Fournier, Grimes

SG-PG: Burks

PG: Quickley, McBride, Walker, Rose

Well, here we are at the mid point of the season. 

Somehow Thibs stood up to the pressure of Carlos Castanet's recall petition, injuries, COVID protocols, and the baby steps our starters took in finding some coherent rhythm and their individual games. 

Somehow Leon Rose & Friends transposed Dallas' 2021 First Rounder/#19 pick into a 2022 asset, our own 2021 #21 pick into a #25 and some future #2s, and Marcus Morris into a first rounder in 2019-2020 and a 2020-21 Second Rounder/#32 pick into the #34 and #36 picks, and Austin Rivers into cap fodder and a #58 pick in the second round. 

Cam Reddish [22]
Quentin Grimes [21]
Immanuel Quickley [22]
Rokas Jokubaitis [21]
Miles McBride [21]
Jericho Sims [23]

A pretty impressive haul, and clearly Cam Reddish easily trumps damn near anyone we could have picked in the first round from #19 on, save Grimes at #25, and, arguably, Nash'Shon Hyland, Carmeron Thomas and Day'Ron Sharpe. 

That is A LOT OF PUPPIES.  RJ [21] and Mitchell [23] have emerged as major rotational pieces, while Toppin [23] and IQ [22] and Grimes [21], in the absence of Rose and Walker, have shouldered their way into the second unit. 

Getting Cam Reddish for our 2022 provisional #1 and Kevin Knox is a rather startling development. 

Yet considering that Reddish wanted OUT of Atlanta, due to a logjam of wings, he now is faced with another logjam of wings in NYC, and a coach who has made it crystal clear that minutes are not bequeathed, but earned. 

Robinson-Randle-Barrett-Fournier-Burks

Has emerged as a tenable starting five. 

And until Walker finally emerges as capable of pulling minutes, and Rose completes his own rehab....and Noel proves ambulatory for more than a fortnight at a time...

Gibson-Toppin-Reddish-Grimes-IQ

Once Walker AND Rose return, things get kind of dicey in terms of minutes. 

NEXT MAN UP? 

Unless Coach projects Toppin as a small ball center in lieu of Gibson [unlikely], and shifts Reddish over to small ball PF, with Grimes, IQ AND Walker filling out the second unit, Grimes and Reddish are going to be going mano a mano in practice for some of Fournier and Burks minutes, save if Thibs dials back some of RJ's load. 

In any event, a nice problem for the Knicks to have, though depth and a surfeit of youth creates its own challenges. 

Be interesting to see how Reddish responds to Thibs challenge. 

In the meantime, Cam stands well above the likes of such collegiate talents as Kai Jones, Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson and Isaiah Jackson as a tenable youth asset and rotational chess piece, with a chance to log meanwingful minutes. 

Not to mention the level of competition and camraderie he brings to the scrum with RJ and Quentin. 

Interesting. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22338 on: January 16, 2022, 05:55:26 PM »

Randle holding back early and setting the table with passes, screens, and clears gives the team that game planned against him to focus more on all the other things the lineup can do and less on that plan while he saves energy and they spend it. If that is established in the first quarter he has plenty of time to monster as the game evolves and have more juice still in his tank to positively impact key moments.

I think the Hawks see their newer Dukie adequately replacing Reddish if not Collins as well. It would be a pretty good break for them if he did. They could make one more move that clears their ladder and lands them a future asset.

Will our second unit D be defined by Grimes Reddish talent or Toppin Reddish miscues?

Kentucky?

Oh, you mean Johnson. 

Mmmmm.  I think they project both him AND Knox as SF-PF hybrids. 
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« Reply #22339 on: January 16, 2022, 06:35:33 PM »



Hey Chip, thank you for posting a picture of my favorite coach.

Now, a picture of my favorite pussy 😁

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Re: Thanks Chip
« Reply #22340 on: January 16, 2022, 06:49:45 PM »



Hey Chip, thank you for posting a picture of my favorite coach.

Now, a picture of my favorite pussy 😁



El gusto es mio. 


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« Reply #22341 on: January 16, 2022, 07:09:40 PM »


El gusto es mio. 



You look good in this gif, Chip Meshuga. Muy favorecido.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjnxfYox2m4
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22342 on: January 16, 2022, 10:56:10 PM »

Cam Reddish [22]
Quentin Grimes [21]
Immanuel Quickley [22]
Rokas Jokubaitis [21]
Miles McBride [21]
Jericho Sims [23]



Potential depth

Potential trade bait
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Re: Rumble Young Man, Rumble
« Reply #22343 on: January 17, 2022, 02:26:07 AM »

Key offensive rebound and put back under the hoop, under duress, at the point the Hawks were pressing to within a basket of overtaking us.

Randle noticed that Gallo was stationed in front of him and knew he could outmuscle and out-hustle Gallo.  Randle went all pass rush and burned Gallo.  Nice hustle and and smarts there.
Gallo had a few slow reaction/low effort plays in the 2nd half.

I was impressed how Okongwu cleanly blocked Randle twice at the rim.  Ok was supposed to be a high energy whirlwind defender, and I haven't seen much of that, due to injuries and CV and ticky tack fouls.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22344 on: January 17, 2022, 10:32:31 AM »

Program reminder

1 PM today

A win and a Toronto loss at Miami has us in SEVENTH position in the East
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22345 on: January 17, 2022, 01:24:51 PM »

No LaMelo - but damn - Hornets are fun.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22346 on: January 17, 2022, 03:53:03 PM »

Free throws, turnovers, and needing one more defender who does not slow the offense down.

Picking a Bridges, either one, over a Knox turned out to be a good idea as many here clearly saw would be the case.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22347 on: January 17, 2022, 04:20:00 PM »

Free throws, turnovers, and needing one more defender who does not slow the offense down.

Picking a Bridges, either one, over a Knox turned out to be a good idea as many here clearly saw would be the case.

Oof..talk about Bridges rubbing salt in our wounds..hated the Knox pick from the pre-get-go, but wish him well and some semblance of a career...probably in another country.

Just a dumb game today..ah well, tomorrow's another day.
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« Reply #22348 on: January 17, 2022, 06:31:05 PM »

That was grim.

Miles OR Myles.

Now we have Reddish.

Oh well. 

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« Reply #22349 on: January 17, 2022, 06:33:03 PM »

That was grim.

Miles OR Myles.

Now we have Reddish.

Oh well. 



Maybe

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