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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

1st half, Cavs pushed the ball and Knix transition D was, as usual, lacking.
Okoro and Garland lighting it up on the break.
Rondo got hot 2Q.

Cavs announcers are pretty bad, though they seemed to be having a good time calling the game.  Toppings hits an early 3 and Austin Carr says that he's known as a shooter.  Hmm.  Cavs announcers did chuckle over Knix poor D and tendency to chuck lots of 3's.  But then the halftime crew talks about how both teams are good defensively.  Campy Russell one of the halftime guys.  Brad Daugherty, part of the 3-man game announcers, is okay but kind of bland and talks in generalities.
Mostly the issue is Austin Carr sounding like your old drunk uncle.

[carlos123]

They really got beat by Golden State, by 38 points!
Everyone with an atrocious game, especially KP.
Like Kamster the genius Hamster (I mean this in a good way) says:

KP TOSSES SALADS IN DALLAS
That is really genius!

Now, GS is a REALLY scary team, and they dont even have Draymond back. Once they are all healthy, they look unbeatable from where I stand.

[bodiddley]

Hardaway just broke a toe.  DAL had a 6 game win streak, broken by the Knix, then won 4 more.  Their two other recent losses since that 10-1 streak were to PHX and GSW.  A stellar 11-3 January with 3 weak teams to go.
Surprisingly their D has been good, holding 10 of their last 15 opponents under 100.  With two others just 101 & 102.
DAL has looked mediocre to me, but I only saw the Knix loss and part of the GSW debacle. 

KZ 20 & 8, w/ 2 assists, 2 blocks, 5 FT's in just 30 mins.  A PER over 23.
I think they're smart to keep his minutes lowish.
Both Luka and KZ shooting 29% on 3;s.
Just 33% as a team.  Bad for 25th.
Not sure how they are managing good D.
Just dropped WCS for Grand Marquise Chriss, a better defender.

[chipstern]

Hints

Portents...of deals, Deals...DEALS

Not feeling any of it

I suspect we simply tread water until Derrick Rose comes back. 

Ryan Arcidiacono PG   27   6' 3"   195 lbs Villanova $3,000,000

RJ Barrett    SG   21   6' 6"   214 lbs Duke $8,623,920

Cam Reddish   SF   22   6' 8"   217 lbs Duke   $4,670,160

Alec Burks SG   30   6' 6"   214 lbs Colorado $9,536,000

Evan Fournier    SG   29   6' 6"   205 lbs   $17,000,000

Taj Gibson    C   36   6' 9"   232 lbs USC   $4,910,000

Quentin Grimes   SG   21   6' 4"   210 lbs Houston    $2,168,760

Miles McBride   PG   21   6' 1"   195 lbs West Virginia   $925,258

Nerlens Noel   C   27   6' 11" 220 lbs Kentucky   $8,000,000

Immanuel Quickley   SG   22   6' 3"   190 lbs Kentucky   $2,210,640

Julius Randle   PF   27   6' 8"   250 lbs Kentucky   $21,780,000

Mitchell Robinson  C   23   7' 0"   240 lbs   $1,802,057

Derrick Rose   PG   33   6' 2"   200 lbs Memphis   $13,445,120

Luka Samanic   PF   22   6' 10"   227 lbs      $2,959,080

Jericho Sims   C   23   6' 9"   250 lbs   Texas   

Obi Toppin     PF   23   6' 9"   220 lbs   Dayton   $5,105,160

Kemba Walker   PG   31   6' 0"   184 lbs   Connecticut   $8,729,020

REALLY?

Which of these cats represents a tradeable asset?

All of them?

None of them? 

Meanwhile we are what, near the bottom of the league in terms of pace and assists, our two purest PGs, Arcidiacono & McBride, are nailed to the pine, and Thibs asserts that you can never have enough wings.

Barrett
Burks
Fournier
Grimes
Reddish

K

[Kam]

they're all tradeable.   A triumph considering how many untradeable guys this team has employed in recent vintage.

Me I'm trying to find someone to take Fournier and Walker off my hands as the grand "help Julius not shoulder the whole load" experiment has failed spectacularly.

[chipstern]

they're all tradeable.   A triumph considering how many untradeable guys this team has employed in recent vintage.

Me I'm trying to find someone to take Fournier and Walker off my hands as the grand "help Julius not shoulder the whole load" experiment has failed spectacularly.

Probably need to sweeten the deal with some draft assets?

Don't see anyone biting. 

Who knows. 

[Kam]

they're all tradeable.   A triumph considering how many untradeable guys this team has employed in recent vintage.

Me I'm trying to find someone to take Fournier and Walker off my hands as the grand "help Julius not shoulder the whole load" experiment has failed spectacularly.

Probably need to sweeten the deal with some draft assets?

Don't see anyone biting. 

Who knows.

If there is any team that can fashion a deal with assets and players on tradeable contracts, it's the Knicks.  That was one of the reasons some have praised the FA signings and draft day trades the last two seasons.  We collected a lot of ammo.   We can either keep our powder dry or fire some of these slugs.

Let's go Leon.  When life gives you Mayo make Mayonaisse!

[bodiddley]

Fournier for Hardaway.
Both streak shooters and not good defenders.
I prefer Tim Jr. for his transition hooping and he's less prone to disappear/space out.

DAL gets a replacement shooter.
Play Reddish and get Hardaway back next year.
Believe Tim Jr has a longer contract than FourEva.

Somewhat of a sideways move.

How about ObiT, Noel and Kemba for Jerami Grant?
Gives DET a young prospect, a defensive C and a gimpy PG to mentor Cade.
Knix get a stretch 4 who can man the 3 as well.
Nice multi-tooled contributor.
Consolidation upgrade trade for NYK.

[elephant]

O hell no to the Hardaway idea.

Third time not the charm.

[elephant]

Hints

Portents...of deals, Deals...DEALS

Not feeling any of it

I suspect we simply tread water until Derrick Rose comes back. 

Thinking about Rose a lot lately. Would the season have been wildly different with a healthy Rose?

No. But I do think a few of the losses would have been wins. And will be the difference for getting in the playoffs.

He can't come back too soon.

[carlos123]

KZ 20 & 8, w/ 2 assists, 2 blocks, 5 FT's in just 30 mins.  A PER over 23.
I think they're smart to keep his minutes lowish.
Both Luka and KZ shooting 29% on 3;s.

I do not know if BoZ was trying to "refute" my post about KP disastrous game yesterday, but his stats are a little outta whack. Here are the real ones:

Mavericks
STARTERS          MIN     FG      3PT   FT   OREB   DREB   REB   AST   STL   BLK   TO   PF   +/-     PTS
K. Porzingis C       25   4-15     1-7    0-0       1        6        7     1      1       2       3     2    -17        9

Ok, he got the blocks right. 😁

[elephant]

And your point about Julius is obvious and concerning. He's fucked up. Needs some help. Never seen him so psychologically fragile. If I were the Knicks and there's some hoops guru that might help, I'd fly the man in on the company jet.

So fragile he had Dean Wade on the block and could drive left to the hoop for the score or the foul and instead waits til theres no time for RJ to do anything but catch and shoot.   This guy is TOO fragile.  Last year he would've taken the ball to the hoop.  This year he is fighting that tendency and he ends up thinking too much.  The game moves faster than Randle thinks.   There's a reason he is a bully ball PF not a cerebral PG.

"The game moves fast than Randle thinks." Wow, that's a perfect way of describing what I'm seeing. Too much thinking and thinking too slow.

Sometimes, it seems to be about fatigue. Other times, it just feels like he's been snakebitten and has lost faith in his (considerable) mojo.

Either way, he's gotta snap out of it.

In related matters, when was the last time (and I may be forgetting something) that the Knicks fell behind by double digits and came back with Randle on the court? Our comebacks usually arise with much more activity and energy on the floor.

[kidcarter8]

Which of these cats represents a tradeable asset?


As cap fillers?   Anyone that does not detract too much from the W-L rate given who we are adding.

[kidcarter8]

Thinking about Rose a lot lately. Would the season have been wildly different with a healthy Rose?


You think VEGAS may have factored in Rose's potential health woes when setting their NYK win totals?

Pro'lly

[kidcarter8]

O hell no to the Hardaway idea.


Assinine..