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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22860 on: February 19, 2022, 09:33:05 AM »

Bones awfully similar to IQ.


Eh - some differences...

At this point I  fully expect COLIN SEXTON to be the Knicks PG next year.   
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« Reply #22861 on: February 19, 2022, 10:53:57 AM »

There was of course potential rewards with Kemba.  ..... Thibs obviously the wrong coach to monitor and ease up on a gimpy vet's minutes.  Kemba's second year was very questionable.

Noel was heroic last year.  Hasn't been healthy this year.  ......  Mitch insurance, since he tends to be injury and foul prone.

Funny how most of the Knix played better in their contract year and regressed this year ...

well in the abstract any signing has potential rewards, but as you yourself note - Thibs was the wrong coach for an aged Kemba...

Heroic Noel was also injured periodically and has a history of injury, so Noel as insurance for an injury prone player is a clever meta narrative, but a dopey  real world one...

no, with all that cap space last summer, FO Rose and co. spit the bit - easy to say now, but also looking back - it was overly conservative, a lot of risk for not so much reward, did not ACTUALLY address the point guard issue in either a short term or long term way, and begins to open up the notion that Rose might be a good agent but a lousy president. 

Also, what is the deal with hiring the former T Wolves president - that's a pretty admin. heavy FO - a lot of cooks in an increasingly small kitchen...
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« Reply #22862 on: February 19, 2022, 01:04:22 PM »

There was of course potential rewards with Kemba.  ..... Thibs obviously the wrong coach to monitor and ease up on a gimpy vet's minutes.  Kemba's second year was very questionable.

Noel was heroic last year.  Hasn't been healthy this year.  ......  Mitch insurance, since he tends to be injury and foul prone.

Funny how most of the Knix played better in their contract year and regressed this year ...

well in the abstract any signing has potential rewards, but as you yourself note - Thibs was the wrong coach for an aged Kemba...

Heroic Noel was also injured periodically and has a history of injury, so Noel as insurance for an injury prone player is a clever meta narrative, but a dopey  real world one...

no, with all that cap space last summer, FO Rose and co. spit the bit - easy to say now, but also looking back - it was overly conservative, a lot of risk for not so much reward, did not ACTUALLY address the point guard issue in either a short term or long term way, and begins to open up the notion that Rose might be a good agent but a lousy president. 

Also, what is the deal with hiring the former T Wolves president - that's a pretty admin. heavy FO - a lot of cooks in an increasingly small kitchen...

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22863 on: February 19, 2022, 02:52:47 PM »

Bones awfully similar to IQ.


Eh - some differences...

At this point I  fully expect COLIN SEXTON to be the Knicks PG next year.   

Regarding Bones. Yeah, some differences with IQ. But he resembles IQ way more than any other player in the NBA.

And IQ is on our team.

He was never going to be taken by the Knicks. Move on!

What kind of impact do you think Sexton would make here?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22864 on: February 19, 2022, 03:00:08 PM »

Regarding Bones. Yeah, some differences with IQ. But he resembles IQ way more than any other player in the NBA.


"Resembles"

You mean what - collegiate stat lines?

Quickley is a perimeter guy.  And yeah, I forgot - that floater.    DEPENDENT on the 3 and that float-are falling.  No much else.   Hyland offers more.  But we chose McBride and I am not too upset with that.  Some would also say we dont get Hyland AND Grimes - and they may be right

Onward.
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« Reply #22865 on: February 19, 2022, 03:18:06 PM »

Bones awfully similar to IQ.


Eh - some differences...

At this point I  fully expect COLIN SEXTON to be the Knicks PG next year.   

Regarding Bones. Yeah, some differences with IQ. But he resembles IQ way more than any other player in the NBA.

And IQ is on our team.

He was never going to be taken by the Knicks. Move on!

What kind of impact do you think Sexton would make here?

That ship has sailed. 

Cleveland was asking way too much, and so was Sexton [a max contract].

It says here that Sexton resigns for something well shy of the max, but still generous, and finds his niche on Cleveland as a scoring sixth man combo guard off the bench.  Going down and giving Garland the ball, who came of age, much as Allen has, was the making of Cleveland.  As was picking up MarkieMark [that one is for Bo], drafting Mobley, developing Okuro and a relaxed, healthy Kevin Love off the pine. 
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« Reply #22866 on: February 19, 2022, 03:40:32 PM »

What kind of impact do you think Sexton would make here?


Everything Walker currently lacks and you miss from Rose

 
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« Reply #22867 on: February 19, 2022, 03:44:51 PM »

Bones awfully similar to IQ.


Eh - some differences...

At this point I  fully expect COLIN SEXTON to be the Knicks PG next year.   

Regarding Bones. Yeah, some differences with IQ. But he resembles IQ way more than any other player in the NBA.

And IQ is on our team.

He was never going to be taken by the Knicks. Move on!

What kind of impact do you think Sexton would make here?

That ship has sailed. 

Cleveland was asking way too much, and so was Sexton [a max contract].

It says here that Sexton resigns for something well shy of the max, but still generous, and finds his niche on Cleveland as a scoring sixth man combo guard off the bench.  Going down and giving Garland the ball, who came of age, much as Allen has, was the making of Cleveland.  As was picking up MarkieMark [that one is for Bo], drafting Mobley, developing Okuro and a relaxed, healthy Kevin Love off the pine.

No way Cavs match on Sexton after Garland has popped.  The injury was unfortunate for Cleveland.  Maybe they recoup something in a sign and trade but Collin will be in another uni next year - book it.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22868 on: February 19, 2022, 07:07:41 PM »

Noel is a perfectly adequate 3rd string big, a guy who can change a game or two, in a break glass scenario before teams start capitalizing on his weaknesses against us. For that role he is over paid. For other roles he is inadequate. 

He works best if no one on floor for the other team outweighs him by more than fifteen pounds, but that is rare.

It is good he is a nice guy because we will be riding out the contract since it is slim return for the money.
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« Reply #22869 on: February 19, 2022, 11:02:31 PM »

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« Reply #22870 on: February 19, 2022, 11:06:55 PM »

I didn't actually watch, but Mitch Robinson did!

https://twitter.com/NBA_NewYork/status/1495240876997722114
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22871 on: February 20, 2022, 06:29:31 AM »

I haven't liked Sexton's play.  But paired with Garland was never going to work.  And admittedly I saw CLE very little prior to this year.  But a small weak defender at PG sounds uninspiring.  Is Sextant even a PG?

Another guy who should be available ... Fultz.
Cole Ant looks like their PG.  They have Gary Harris and Suggs.
No idea if Fultz is still viable at all.
But worth keeping an eye on.  Might return later this year from last year's knee injury.
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« Reply #22872 on: February 20, 2022, 04:20:17 PM »

THIS JUST IN

"In light of his triumph in the Slam Dunk Competiton, Knicks Coach Tom Thibodeau announced that Obi's minutes will be increased from 15.1 to 16.2 a night, but 'Only against white girls or light skinned sisters,' the coach hastened to add." 


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #22873 on: February 20, 2022, 04:52:56 PM »

Are we getting better D this year from Toppin or Randle?
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« Reply #22874 on: February 20, 2022, 07:04:11 PM »

Are we getting better D this year from Toppin or Randle?

Good question.
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