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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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chipstern

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« Reply #23760 on: June 01, 2022, 03:41:53 PM »

Dyson Daniels SG
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Re: Go RANGERS
« Reply #23761 on: June 01, 2022, 07:30:53 PM »

Damn

Bank

You have irony poor blood.

I was running with how you and Carlos characterized Pat Riley as EVIL.

Red Auerbach was a genius.

His trade for the rights to Bill Russell being Exhibit A.

Speaking of EVIL, Bill Russell was a Satanic Cohort.  I get a kick out of people talking about how Mister Bill played against an inferior level of competition. 

Uh huh. 

Bob Pettit.  Wilt Chamberlain. Dolph Schayes.  Johnny Kerr.  Nate Thrumond.  Wayne Embry.  Zelmo Beaty.  Willis Reed.  Wes Unseld.

No irony chip, Red was my evil genius, Riley was not.

Both were smart and opportunistic and ruthless.

I just didn't like Riley, a little too slick, too Hollywood. But seeing that this is a Knicks forum I'll end my criticism there.

As for Russell (and the players WBW) there is no denying the modern athlete is superior, bigger, faster, stronger, but WBW the actual day to day competition in a small league (8-14 teams) versus the dilution today, (30 teams) and where for example the 60s Celts could play a team up to 15+ times a year that had 2-4 HoFers, was astounding. Bird and Magic had a storied rivalry meeting about 40 times, Russ and Wilt faced each other almost 150 times. Put another way, arguably the NBA's most storied centers and among the greatest all-time players, went head to head for almost 2 full seasons.

That to me is a superior level of competition.

Different strokes...
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Rangers!
« Reply #23762 on: June 01, 2022, 11:25:41 PM »

The Kid Line.

Listening Thibs?
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« Reply #23763 on: June 02, 2022, 01:50:46 PM »

Knicks trade Julius Randle & #11 pick.

To Kings.

For Richaun Holmes & #4 pick.

Contingent on Jaden Ivey being there at #4.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23764 on: June 02, 2022, 04:15:43 PM »

Always asking for extra.....
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« Reply #23765 on: June 02, 2022, 04:22:31 PM »

Richaun Holmes

Games  45

PER  17.8   (second on team not including 15-game playing Sabonis)

Win shares   3.2  (3rd on team)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23766 on: June 02, 2022, 04:50:35 PM »

We got Brunson.

Rick, not Jalen, as assistant coach.
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« Reply #23767 on: June 02, 2022, 05:50:57 PM »

Always asking for extra.....

No You Smirking Douche Canoe

Making the numbers work

You see, there's this thing called THE SALARY CAP.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

Which means, cough, you can't just spend as much money as you like. 

If we had cap space, we could make a straight offer to Jalen Brunson. Hello. 

It's debateable whether or not the Kings would be interested in Randle's offensive presence or that he constitutes a good match with Sabonis.  Homles is an excellent role player at C-PF.  If Julius stays in NY, he is also going to be a C-PF.  HAS TO.  Cannot sentence Obi Toppin to 15 fucking minutes every other night.  Perhaps the Kings turn their nose up at our offer, and take Jaden themselves.  Or Houston beats them to him at #3.  Stranger things have happenned.  Don't see how they can pass on Banchero. 

The Pistons and Spurs presently have what The NBA Team Salary Cap Tracker refers to as positive cap space

No one else does. 

Am I going too fast for you? 

The Knicks and Thunder are on the cusp of cap space, in a domain referred to as projected practical cap space, which denotes cap space with cap holds renounced if team salary was below the cap maximum. Assumes veteran club options declined and non-guaranteed players released.

The Knicks are listed as roughly -4.8 million, and the Thunder at -2.5 million. 

Whatever the fuck that means?  Though it would suggest we can't make any bodacious offers for a UFA like Brunson. 

I do not believe that the Kings could absorb Randle's salary straight up. 

Would the Kings be more inclinced to take Randle and the #11 in exchange for Moe Harkless and the #4?

Naturally.  Would the Knicks.  My counter would be Randle straight up for the #4. 

Not sure Randle has that appeal at this point. 

In any event,

New York Knicks Salaries

Team Payroll:
$120,644,081
2021/22

Team Payroll Rank:
28

Key: Player Option / Team Option / Qualifying Offer / Two-Way Contract

New York Knicks
 
2021/22

PLAYER             2021/22            2022/23            2023/24            2024/25            2025/26
Julius Randle   $19,800,000   $23,760,000   $25,660,800   $27,561,600   $29,462,400
Evan Fournier   $17,142,857   $18,000,000   $18,857,143   $19,000,000   $0
Derrick Rose   $13,445,120   $14,520,730         $15,596,339   $0   $0
Alec Burks           $9,536,000   $10,012,800       $10,489,600   $0   $0
Nerlens Noel   $8,800,000   $9,240,000           $9,680,000   $0   $0
Kemba Walker   $8,729,020   $9,165,471   $0   $0   $0
Taj Gibson           $4,910,000   $5,155,500


Potentially 35,000,000 in cap space opens up in 2023-2024 with team options on Rose, Burks and Noel.

God only knows how we divest ourselves of KEMBA. 

This year, capologist Brock Aller, the Rose-WWW-Perry tryptich and assistant GMs Walt Perrin and Frank Zanin are going to have to be very creative over the next two months.

For starters, do we re-up Mitchell, or get creative with him vis a vis sign and trades.  He is an unrestricted free agent, so he can exert some gonad sweating pressure on the front office. 

Anyway, we don't have BoD to argue the merits of how much you pay a Jalen Brunson.

BoD seemed to think Fred Van Vleet's contract was cool.


He is due to make roughly 21 million and 23 million in 2022-23 and 2023-24.  And while we all thought it was a four year deal for $85 million, HoopsHype indicates that Van Vleet has a PLAYER OPTION for 2023-24. 

Van Vleet and Brunson.  Dynamic smurf guards at 6'1".  Van Vleet turned 28 in Ferbruary.  Brunson turns 26 in August.  Hmmmmmmmm

Now, what if Jalen Brunson and his father made it plain to the Mavericks' Mark Cuban that Jalen wanted to be a Knicks at, oh, say $23 million x 4.  Just by coincidence, Julian Randle would offer Dallas the kind of size and inside presence they need; just by coincidence, Julius is a native of Dallas; and just by coincidence Julius is due $23 million in 2022-23 .

Might Julius for Jalen straight up be on the table?

It might.

Might Cuban try and leverage our #11.  Fuck you Mark.

Might Cuban settle for the return of the 2023 Dallas #1 pick we are currently holding? 

Let me get back to you Mark. 

Personally, I have a hankering for 6'8" combo guard Dyson Daniels at #11.   

Not sure if he is sitting there at #10 that the Wizards pass. 

Anyway, thrills and chills. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23768 on: June 02, 2022, 05:54:04 PM »

We got Brunson.

Rick, not Jalen, as assistant coach.

Tells me we got both, though recent dissing of Pop's game by Jalen wasnt very nice.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23769 on: June 02, 2022, 05:55:04 PM »

Big Three

Brunson Barrett Randle

Lets go!!!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23770 on: June 02, 2022, 06:08:11 PM »

We got Brunson.

Rick, not Jalen, as assistant coach.

Tells me we got both, though recent dissing of Pop's game by Jalen wasnt very nice.

Gracious, but you are dim. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23771 on: June 02, 2022, 07:57:55 PM »

No You Smirking Douche Canoe



Shhhh....

Child..... behave.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #23772 on: June 02, 2022, 08:04:55 PM »

Knicks cut Taj Gibson

Knicks deal Derrick Rose and picks for AIR

Knicks sign Jalen Brunson
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« Reply #23773 on: June 02, 2022, 09:58:18 PM »

What the fuck is ESPN doing with this coffee clatch instead of paying attention to the damn game?
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« Reply #23774 on: June 02, 2022, 10:08:20 PM »

What the fuck is ESPN doing with this coffee clatch instead of paying attention to the damn game?

Not exciting enough for them, perhaps?

What both sides have been doing beyond the arc is amazing, especially given what they are doing at the free throw line!
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