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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/knicks-weather-mitchell-robinsons-absence-with-isaiah-hartensteins-renaissance/

[chipstern]

http://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/knicks-weather-mitchell-robinsons-absence-with-isaiah-hartensteins-renaissance/

Thanks. 

In extolling Isaiah's defense, shot blocking and relentless offensive rebounding, leave us not overlook his passing, and ESP, on both sides of the ball, particularly with Jason Hart.  Their chemistry on cuts, back doors and the old give and go are so telepathic, such beautiful old school hoops. 



Chemistry Would Appear To Be Hartenstein's Middle Name

[chipstern]

The Chant From Post Menopausal Knicks Fans

"Fire Leon Rose.  He was supposed to get us a a superstar."

Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein, Josh Hart

Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Jericho Sims [Rokas Jokubaitis, I know, I know, on ice in Madrid, so sue me] 

Neon has had his share of missteps, for sure, but has reshaped our roster, been prudent with our draft assets, resisted the call for Thibs' head, resisted the urge to engage in short term thinking and cannibalize our youth, resisted the fan & media pressure to go all in on the usurous demands of Danny Ainge for the much loved Donovan Mitchell...

B/B+ 

NOW LET'S MAKE A RUN FOR A 1-THROUGH-6 PLAYOFF SLOT

[chipstern]

SuperStars R Us

In this his fourth season, the once and future superstar wet dream target of Knicks fans has played

24
61
ZERO
29-out of-59 games in 2022-23

[chipstern]

[carlos123]

The Chant From Post Menopausal Knicks Fans

"Fire Leon Rose.  He was supposed to get us a a superstar."

Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein, Josh Hart

Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Jericho Sims [Rokas Jokubaitis, I know, I know, on ice in Madrid, so sue me] 

Neon has had his share of missteps, for sure, but has reshaped our roster, been prudent with our draft assets, resisted the call for Thibs' head, resisted the urge to engage in short term thinking and cannibalize our youth, resisted the fan & media pressure to go all in on the usurous demands of Danny Ainge for the much loved Donovan Mitchell...

B/B+ 

NOW LET'S MAKE A RUN FOR A 1-THROUGH-6 PLAYOFF SLOT

True, thats why I put my former candidates on a basket, for the time being.

[chipstern]

Your humor is sharp

But your Phatwa is intellectually suspect

Mike Miller, Dawg and Chip

A weak field of candidates for head coach of the Knicks

Perhaps for the news desk on SNL

Not very seriously thought out

Just blood for blood's sake

Thibs' troops seems oddly supportive of their coach

[carlos123]

Your humor is sharp

But your Phatwa is intellectually suspect

Mike Miller, Dawg and Chip

A weak field of candidates for head coach of the Knicks

Perhaps for the news desk on SNL

Not very seriously thought out

Just blood for blood's sake

Thibs' troops seems oddly supportive of their coach

Mike Millers head is not in the basket.
Just look at the avatars of recent posts.
And nobody is bleeding.
The basket symbolizes that I am giving up my bloodlust for Thibs head (for the time being).
But it would be nice if he gave up his SACRED number 9, gave some minutes to Deuce, and more minutes to Obi.
Besides, I was agreeing with your assertion about Thibs position. So whats your beef?

[chipstern]

What is this strange obsession with the Number NINE?

It's not as if Thibs is the only coach who goes with a NineManRotation.  Celtics.  Bulls go eight deep.

Obi?  Last time I checked, Julius played 32 and Obi 16.

When there was an opening, Deuce got plenty of burn. 

And so whom is Thibs going to sit to create a more Bolivar Friendly, Egalitarian Rotation? 

We gonna take minutes away from Hart to give to Deuce?

We gonna take minutes away from Randle to give to Obi?

I LOVE DEUCE AND OBI. 

But they are where they are in the rotation because Josh and Julius are demonstrably better. 

When Mitchell comes back, my main man Jericho is going to sit. 

Thibs' reputation coming onboard was of never playing youngsters. 

How then do we account for how he has nurtured and developed Obi, IQ, Quentin, Deuce and Jericho. 

Cam didn't work out, and I was a Cam booster. 

Thibs elevated puppies, and sat Fournier, and his main man, Derek Rose. 

We all have issues with Thibs.

ME TOO. 

But he has a plan, he has a system.  Which has helped resusitate Julius, liberate Jalen to be a superhero, elevate the still imperfect RJ to a 20-6-3 player, and discipline Hartenstein to excel in his system. 

And with all the talk of the Knicks being willing to accept a couple of #2 picks for Cam, when Leon attached Arci and Svi and a #1 pick, he shoplifted a DIFFERENCE MAKER IN HART WHO HAS SUPERCHARGED Thibs' Rotation and seemingly validated his system and his rotation. 

Seemingly.  Bitch slapping the Hawks last night was SO FUCKING SATISFYING. 

Still a nine man rotation, and it IS STILL FUCKING WORKING.

So, I get your obsession with THIBS, but his system and philopsophy appears to be working. 

PS: As for the profligance of attaching our own protected #1 pick to get Josh Hart, when we were apparently unwilling to attach multiple #1s and multiple young players to score Donovan, well, that argument will never be resolved.  BUT PLEASE NOTE, if you check out a mock draft, NewYork's #1 pick is currently at #22, while the pick we still own of Dallas is at #17.  Our own second rounder is currently at #40. 

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

[carlos123]

Chip, first of all, I never had a problem with the way Leon Rose is managing the roster, so I dont know whats your point, and I never liked the idea of being raped by Danny boy.

Now, NINE, I understand thats Thibs system. What I object to is his inflexibility.

Where to get minutes for Deuce. How about from RJ? I dont have a problem with RJ, but he is not currently helping us win, or not to the extent that other players do.

Obi? That is more complicated because Julius is essential to our winning. How about sharing some minutes with him?

Now, Cam didnt work out. Ok, but did he have a chance?

As for playing youngsters, thats fine, but its not like Thibs had much choice with the roster we have, thankfully.

[elephant]

Dump RJ?

Bullshit

Trade, not dump.

And yeah, that's what we'll try to do this summer.

Look I get your twisted love for each and every human who puts on a Knicks uniform. And my guess is you married the first girl you ever kissed. So your purity is impressive.

But he's not what we need moving forward. He's got to move on. And so do you. You struggle to look unblinkingly at the team you love. It's not a black and white universe. Good shit is afoot! But yeah, they blew the Mitchell trade. Good shit is afoot! But, yeah, they've fucked up Obi's development. Good shit is afoot! But yeah, RJ does not have a future with the makeup of this team.

It's possible to embrace it all. I root for RJ! But it is what it is.

Meanwhile...

Good shit is afoot!

[chipstern]

K

And what leads you to believe the Knicks are going to trade RJ?

WISHING
AIN'T
FISHING

[kiidcarter8]

The Chant From Post Menopausal Knicks Fans

"Fire Leon Rose.  He was supposed to get us a a superstar."

Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein, Josh Hart

Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Jericho Sims [Rokas Jokubaitis, I know, I know, on ice in Madrid, so sue me] 

Neon has had his share of missteps, for sure, but has reshaped our roster, been prudent with our draft assets, resisted the call for Thibs' head, resisted the urge to engage in short term thinking and cannibalize our youth, resisted the fan & media pressure to go all in on the usurous demands of Danny Ainge for the much loved Donovan Mitchell...

B/B+ 

NOW LET'S MAKE A RUN FOR A 1-THROUGH-6 PLAYOFF SLOT

Yeah...made the point on another site - Leon still has an amcomplete but complete support

1 - would Rand le be playing this well had we added Mitchell?

2 - who do we now add in Mitchell's void?  TBD

[kiidcarter8]

BTBDBTW - can we please keep this positivity if we win only half our remaining games?  I have us winning 13 of them but if its 11-11 keep the faith.

[elephant]

Yeah...made the point on another site - Leon still has an amcomplete but complete support

1 - would Rand le be playing this well had we added Mitchell?

2 - who do we now add in Mitchell's void?  TBD

I think the answer is probably yes. Randle always needed another great ballplayer. Everything was on his back.

The more intriguing question is whether Brunson would have been this good with Mitchell.

Hey, I would have liked to see it! But truth is, you never know about the alchemy of a good team. All we know is that Brunson was given the keys to the car, the freedom to lead the team, and you see what he's done with it.