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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[lesterluv]

Portland won the deal??? LMAO, lol, lol, lol.....



*** guess if you're a pick fetishist and depends who they get for the declining Jrue (one of my abs faves...) But the Bucks just stuck DAME next to GA, ffs....

Jrue could have been a Knick

But Donnie Douche selected Jordan Hill, who.lasted 24 games.

He is a Knick every night once I drink myself to sleep.

[Kam]

Milwaukee gave up very little to get Dame.   Yeah they lose Jrue, but they can't have both Jrue and Dame.   Aside from that what did they give up?  ONE unprotected pick and two unprotected swaps?   Those swaps have a chance to be worthless.   They probably convey but not necessarily.   They stole Dame.

[Kam]

Guess we have no shot at Giannis anymore.   

[lesterluv]

Milwaukee gave up very little to get Dame.   Yeah they lose Jrue, but they can't have both Jrue and Dame.   Aside from that what did they give up?  ONE unprotected pick and two unprotected swaps?   Those swaps have a chance to be worthless.   They probably convey but not necessarily.   They stole Dame.

Yep, given the relative strength of each franchise's leadership, odds are pretty decent the Bucks picks will be higher, not lower, and thus unswappable. And, yes, trade makes less likely that Giannis will have thoughts of leaving, say for us...obviously a huge win for Milwaukee.

Health of protagonists will play a role in everything that follows, but that is always the case and doesn't affect the Bucks more than anyone else.

[facilitatorn]

Guess we have no shot at Giannis anymore.

Giannis has had Holiday making life difficult for the guard in front of him. That will now be done by Dame and who? Allen also went in the deal.

Portland has Scoot and Drue in the backcourt, Ayton and Grant up front and Sharpe as swing. Fun.

Is Phoenix gonna start Biyombo? They shed a grump and added depth behind their big three.

Most satisfyingly, we kept our hands clean and the Raptors have not addressed their overlapping talent and roster imbalance

[chipstern]

Guess we have no shot at Giannis anymore.

Giannis has had Holiday making life difficult for the guard in front of him. That will now be done by Dame and who? Allen also went in the deal.

Portland has Scoot and Drue in the backcourt, Ayton and Grant up front and Sharpe as swing. Fun.

Is Phoenix gonna start Biyombo? They shed a grump and added depth behind their big three.

Most satisfyingly, we kept our hands clean and the Raptors have not addressed their overlapping talent and roster imbalance

Now Vaccaro in the POST is calling for Leon to trade Fournier, Grimes, Hartenstein, Jeffries, Roby and multiple #1s for Holiday.

I love Jrue, but this is beyond moronic.

Jrue is due a player option for $39 million next summer.  He is 33.

Also, every click bait douche bag has us trading Hartenstein.

WTF?

[lesterluv]

Guess we have no shot at Giannis anymore.

Giannis has had Holiday making life difficult for the guard in front of him. That will now be done by Dame and who? Allen also went in the deal.
 

Kind of crazy that Gobert, Smart and Jaren Jackson have DPY awards and Jrue doesn't, he's been a superior defensive player. That game-changing.

But....definitely didn't look totally the same in last year's playoffs, the inevitable starting to happen, perhaps. He's already on record as thinking about his retirement and not wanting another contract.

Bucks have several other all-defensive team level players..that is not their PRIMARY need. You can pick up a decent defender to partner up with Dame in any Walmart, but you can't get a top-75 scorer who will absolutely destroy you when you collapse on Giannis, take the ball out of GA's hands for as long as you need, and totally change up the Bucs often stultifyingly-simplistic end games.

Marvelous trade for Milwaukee. By no means risk-free, but definitely could be a championship-turn, franchise-saving move. If Middleton is back to form, I can see no other favorite. Health determines everything as always, for them, the Lakers, the Suns, the Warriors, the Celtics, the Nuggets, everyone.

Jrue will not play a minute next to Scoot btw. Will he play a minute for us? Well if we weren't willing to give up a pile of assets for a 25-year-old scorer, I don't see why we'd do it for a 33 year old whose shot disappears in the playoffs...(well, the bulk of them, he can certainly make a clutch one or two), but he is surely not our primary need.

[chipstern]

Excactly, DAWG.

The idea as floated by media hacks wherein we could give up Donovan Mitchell assets for Jrue Holiday is just mind numbingly thick.

Again, Leon is going to remain patient.

Embid and/or Mitchell could both be in play over the next year or so.

Clearly, Knicks are going to keep their powder dry.

Mitchell, as you point out, in his prime, Jrue on the back end of a fine career.

PRIMARY NEEDS?

Signifant development from RJ and Grimes and IQ, consistency and a more heady approach from Julius, more ball movement and motion and screens and cutting from Thibs' coach on the floor.

[chipstern]

Milwaukee gave up very little to get Dame.   Yeah they lose Jrue, but they can't have both Jrue and Dame.   Aside from that what did they give up?  ONE unprotected pick and two unprotected swaps?   Those swaps have a chance to be worthless.   They probably convey but not necessarily.   They stole Dame.

Jrue & Dame salary match more of less. 

Phoenix's participation, and desire to cut bait with Ayton, who will be the main man on Portland, in lieu of a role player like Nurkik, facilitated the deal. 

Teams pursuing Jrue, will need to find a third and  fourth team to make it work. 

[Kam]

Guess we have no shot at Giannis anymore.

Giannis has had Holiday making life difficult for the guard in front of him. That will now be done by Dame and who? Allen also went in the deal.
Most satisfyingly, we kept our hands clean and the Raptors have not addressed their overlapping talent and roster imbalance

I can see a universe where the Knicks - still dogged in their pursuit of the Greek - would go after Jrue Holiday.   I've been warming to the idea of a Jalen/Jrue backcourt.  Obviously the cost has to be worth it, but the Knicks have the assets and the motivation to keep Giannis is their sights.

[chipstern]

Love Jrue, but made no sense for a two guard next to Jalen...we have Grimes, IQ, DiVincenzo.

BESIDES...

Celtics just traded Robert Williams, Brogdan and two #1 picks for Holiday.

[chipstern]

Think Thibs might have the night sweats for Reggie Bullock?

Bucks signed Cam Payne.   

[chipstern]

Leon playing the long game?

OG Abunoby has a player option in the summer of 2024.

He will be 27 and is going to be an UFA.

Hello?

[lesterluv]

Love Jrue, but made no sense for a two guard next to Jalen...we have Grimes, IQ, DiVincenzo.

BESIDES...

Celtics just traded Robert Williams, Brogdan and two #1 picks for Holiday.

Love Jrue, Celtics are a better team for the trade, fits like a glove, kind of had to make it after the Bucks did their thing....BUT, I think they paid the steeper price. Dame and Jrue are almost exactly the same age, but way more NBA miles on Jrue's legs. Three more seasons, more minutes, more games, long playoff runs while the Blazers were tanking and Dame was sitting. Will be fun to watch those guys battle it out. Glad we stayed pat.

[chipstern]

Again, Dallas is not going to be a lottery team.

So thats two #1 picks.

God forbid Detroit and Washington improve enough that their #1 picks convey.  That's two more #1
picks.

Hmmmm.