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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[NormaMigrooniug]

   bosch   

[kiidcarter8]

Re:  Baker

You have to give him the opportunity to show what he has now that he is healthy

I cant say he will be worse than all those guys.

[facilitatorn]

I expect the Baker situation to clear up at least a couple of weeks before the regular season starts.

Hezonja is Historically bad at defending the post. Vonleh, Thomas, Mitchell, Kornet, and Knox before Hezonja at power forward. 

[kiidcarter8]

Best lineup right now has Kanter at the 4 defensively.

[bodiddley]

With KZ out and then likely returning slowly from Jan 1st on, Tim Jr. should be our primary scorer.  So the number of double digit games or 20 point outings is less important than his FG%, shot selection, efficiency, FT rate, etc.

FT%?  Hardaway?
heh - lol

Efficiency?  Do you like or hate PER?

Read again.

FT Rate.
FG%
PER is mostly an offensive rating, so overvalues scorers who don't defend and undervalues defenders who don't score.  And of course doesn't capture anything outside of the box score (screens, deflections, nice cuts, ball movement that doesn't generate an assist, double teams, good def. rotations, etc)

[facilitatorn]

Best No lineup right now has Kanter at the 4 defensively.

FIFY.

[thebizneverloses]

Best No lineup right now has Kanter at the 4 defensively.

FIFY.

Thank you

[bodiddley]

Alex Kennedy: Trevor Booker is nearing a deal with the Shanxi Brave Dragons of the Chinese Basketball Association, according to league sources.

[bankshot1]

latest NBA o/u win totals

Jeff Sherman, manager of the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, posted season win totals on Twitter on Sunday, and the two-time defending champion Golden State Warriors unsurprisingly lead with 62.5 projected wins. The Boston Celtics have the second-highest win total at 57.5, followed by the Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers and Toronto Raptors at 54.5 wins each.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/08/05/nba-win-total-projections-westgate-superbook-warriors-rockets-lakers/911468002


Atl 23.5
Bos 57.5
Brk 32.5
Cha 35.5
Chi 27.5
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 37.5
GS 62.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 47.5
LAC 35.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 34.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 46.5
Min 44.5
NO 45.5
NY 29.5
OKC 50.5
Orl 31.5
Phi 54.5
Phx 28.5
Prt 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 43.5
Tor 54.5
Uth 48.5
Wsh 44.5

[kiidcarter8]

With KZ out and then likely returning slowly from Jan 1st on, Tim Jr. should be our primary scorer.  So the number of double digit games or 20 point outings is less important than his FG%, shot selection, efficiency, FT rate, etc.

FT%?  Hardaway?
heh - lol

Efficiency?  Do you like or hate PER?

Read again.

FT Rate.
FG%
PER is mostly an offensive rating, so overvalues scorers who don't defend and undervalues defenders who don't score.  And of course doesn't capture anything outside of the box score (screens, deflections, nice cuts, ball movement that doesn't generate an assist, double teams, good def. rotations, etc)

You said efficiency

So you want to make that an "in your eyes" assessment, where you can make shit up about Hardaway, his help d, his "cuts", etc. (and gloss over what Clyde and others say about him)

You act like Hardaway is that dick at the Y we all hate - the guy who just asks for the ball, never gives back and stands around if he doesnt get it.

And by scoffing at stats you can say pretty much whatever you want.

Well, have at it for another year, pal.

[carlos123]

latest NBA o/u win totals

Atl 23.5
Bos 57.5
Brk 32.5
Cha 35.5
Chi 27.5
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 37.5
GS 62.5
Hou 54.5
Ind 47.5
LAC 35.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 34.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 46.5
Min 44.5
NO 45.5
NY 29.5
OKC 50.5
Orl 31.5
Phi 54.5
Phx 28.5
Prt 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 43.5
Tor 54.5
Uth 48.5
Wsh 44.5

Damn, we’re only fifth!

[kiidcarter8]

Alex Kennedy: Trevor Booker is nearing a deal with the Shanxi Brave Dragons of the Chinese Basketball Association, according to league sources.

Better be for a lot of cash...

I like Booker over Mario - and we did have interest.

Tells me MGT are not as desperate at the 4 as fans would say.

Plans for Noah/Kanter?  Could be.

Expectations of Porzingis back by New Year?  Yes, that too.

[thebizneverloses]

I'd have preferred Booker to Vonleh, but not Mario.

[chipstern]

I'd have preferred Booker to Vonleh, but not Mario.

Trevor is 6'8" and 30 years old.  We already have the 6'8" Hezonja. 

Hell, we could have kept Beasley. 

Vonleh will be 23 later this month. 

6'10" 240 pounds. 

Consistent with exploring notions of youth with possible upsides. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fueE0QWQgxc

This was an interesting cameo, in a losing effort for the Bulls from last March.

Vonleh with four three pointers.  Pretty smooth stroke. 

Proving?  Very little.  He was 18-for-60 overall with the Bulls. 

But a big, springy, powerful body.  Free throw shooting has been up and down over a paltry 15.5 minutes a game in four seasons. 

However, his rebounding has shown a steady uptick, almost 7 a game for the Bulls in 21 games over 19 minutes. 

We shall see.  Seems like a reasonable roll of the dice, allowing Fizz to toss in a big body against beefier power forwards, and concentrate on Knox at the 3, which would allow Hezonja time at the 3 and even at the 4 when matchups permit...of course, he will have to evolve his defense considerably to be an option at the 4. 

[facilitatorn]

Mario is a Sg-sf. He isn’t all that important.

Vonleh is a legit PF/ small ball C. If Fiz can get real growth out of Vonleh we have a much more competitive team than expected. Booker would have been good, but I think Vonleh moves the needle more.