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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #270 on: August 17, 2018, 04:01:28 AM »

I assume Hezonja took a pretty decent Knick 1 year offer in order to try to up his stock and cash in next year.  If there was a POR multi-year offer, it was likely low (3/$10M maybe 3/$12M I'd guess).
Lots of players took one year deals looking towards next years FA.
So I'm not buying the PerryFizz genius scenario.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #271 on: August 17, 2018, 05:33:06 AM »

They certainly didnít buck any trends with their signings. They drafted following a paradigm that seems to be paying off, so thatís something. They also didnít lock us into our next overpay. It does look like they are creating that opportunity for themselves next summer. If they can get through the next offseason in a cool measured fashion avoiding major mistakes then Iíll be impressed.
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« Reply #272 on: August 17, 2018, 02:48:21 PM »

I assume Hezonja took a pretty decent Knick 1 year offer in order to try to up his stock and cash in next year.  If there was a POR multi-year offer, it was likely low (3/$10M maybe 3/$12M I'd guess).
Lots of players took one year deals looking towards next years FA.
So I'm not buying the PerryFizz genius scenario.

I was unaware that you had a crystal ball which allows you to divine contract offers so accurately. 

Color me impressed. 
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« Reply #273 on: August 17, 2018, 08:44:44 PM »

I assume Hezonja took a pretty decent Knick 1 year offer in order to try to up his stock and cash in next year.  If there was a POR multi-year offer, it was likely low (3/$10M maybe 3/$12M I'd guess).
Lots of players took one year deals looking towards next years FA.
So I'm not buying the PerryFizz genius scenario.

I was unaware that you had a crystal ball which allows you to divine contract offers so accurately. 

Color me impressed.


BoZ and his crystal ball.

He also has a tank with AC and a good stereo system...

PLAY HARD. LOSE HARD
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #274 on: August 17, 2018, 10:09:16 PM »

Stop calling it a tank when our troops are about to do everything in their power - working their tails off - to win every possible game.

The Knicks read the forum? 


:)


OK its not a tank. 

Feel Better?
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Kam

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« Reply #275 on: August 17, 2018, 10:10:52 PM »

That's what bodiddley looks like Carlos?

I always pictured him more as a MR. Spock.
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« Reply #276 on: August 17, 2018, 10:29:47 PM »

This is so outterly moronic:

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Do any of you simple-minded motherfuckers really think that a 22 win team and a lottery pick is going to have a tremendous appeal to the likes of Kyrie Irving or Jimmy Butler? 

We are already hearing rumors they want to team up here before next season even has started.

Unless Fizdale sexually harasses everyone on the team we just have to not majorly screw things up.

What could derail our free agent summer dreams.... bringing back KP too soon in a misguided quixotic attempt to squeeze lemon juice from an orange.

Going all out for wins to shoot ourselves in the lottery foot is crazy.
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« Reply #277 on: August 17, 2018, 10:44:28 PM »

Lakers won 35 games.  Got LeBron.

Dallas won 24 games.  Got Jordan.

Seems like free agents figure THEY are the difference.

As it should be.

I think we will be ok.
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« Reply #278 on: August 17, 2018, 11:00:04 PM »

This is so outterly moronic:

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Do any of you simple-minded motherfuckers really think that a 22 win team and a lottery pick is going to have a tremendous appeal to the likes of Kyrie Irving or Jimmy Butler? 

We are already hearing rumors they want to team up here before next season even has started.

Unless Fizdale sexually harasses everyone on the team we just have to not majorly screw things up.

What could derail our free agent summer dreams.... bringing back KP too soon in a misguided quixotic attempt to squeeze lemon juice from an orange.

Going all out for wins to shoot ourselves in the lottery foot is crazy.

KP will come back when he and his agent say so

Thats the NBA these days
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« Reply #279 on: August 17, 2018, 11:28:29 PM »

This is so outterly moronic:

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Do any of you simple-minded motherfuckers really think that a 22 win team and a lottery pick is going to have a tremendous appeal to the likes of Kyrie Irving or Jimmy Butler? 

We are already hearing rumors they want to team up here before next season even has started.

Unless Fizdale sexually harasses everyone on the team we just have to not majorly screw things up.

What could derail our free agent summer dreams.... bringing back KP too soon in a misguided quixotic attempt to squeeze lemon juice from an orange.

Going all out for wins to shoot ourselves in the lottery foot is crazy.

KP will come back when he and his agent say so

Thats the NBA these days

So it doesn't matter what any of us say.

If Janis and Kristaps are in the tank camp or if they are in the prove yourself camp. 

More importantly where they stand in between those extremes. 

Nobody here wants to go 0-82.
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« Reply #280 on: August 17, 2018, 11:32:57 PM »

When we say tank we aren't saying play to lose.

It could be as simple as telling KP in January "We know you say you're ready to go, why don't you take another 2-3 weeks off just to make sure"

That one organizational decision could be all that is required for the "tank" to roll through
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« Reply #281 on: August 17, 2018, 11:45:18 PM »

You know who had a winning culture?

Toronto.

But they dumped their coach of the year.

They had continuity with a happy duo who had grown to be close friends off the court in Lowry and DeRozan.

Why mess with a winning culture?

Because there's winning and then there is WINNING.

And if you have to take steps back to step forward you do it.
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« Reply #282 on: August 18, 2018, 12:59:49 AM »

I assume Hezonja took a pretty decent Knick 1 year offer in order to try to up his stock and cash in next year.  If there was a POR multi-year offer, it was likely low (3/$10M maybe 3/$12M I'd guess).
Lots of players took one year deals looking towards next years FA.
So I'm not buying the PerryFizz genius scenario.

I was unaware that you had a crystal ball which allows you to divine contract offers so accurately. 

Color me impressed.

"Likely" and "I'd guess" and offering a range are hardly accurate words.

First, we don't know if POR even extended an offer to Zonja.
2nd, POR has money woes.  5th highest payroll in a small market with a middling playoff team.  They let two key bench guys walk over minor Dollars.

BLazers let very useful Ed Davissign with the Nets for a mere 1 year/$4.4M.
He's a very good PnR/rebounding Big.

They also let RFA Shabazz Napier, their backup PG, sign a 2/$3.8M deal with BKY without matching.  Napier had a good 1st half of the season, filled in for Lillard pretty well. 

Both of these moves stemming from owing $27M next year to Evan Turner & Myers Leopard.  Turner, Mo Hark, and Aminu all play SF, while the latter two are SF/PF's like Zonja.

So POR cheaped out on two of their key backups (a total of $6.3M for next year), but they were going to offer unproven Hezonja a multi-year contract more than the Knix $6.5M one year dealio?

POR was trying to save money and lose salary.
So they let their cheap FA's walk.
All of that is why I'm skeptical POR made an offer to Zonja, or if they did I assume it was a bargain deal they tried to get him on.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #283 on: August 18, 2018, 12:01:11 PM »

Money went to Nurkic and Curry

Swanigan and Collins are ready for Davis;s minutes.
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« Reply #284 on: August 18, 2018, 01:57:08 PM »

"We are already hearing rumors they want to team up here before next season even has started."

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