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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #660 on: September 19, 2018, 12:30:07 PM »

Yeah, seems Liggins was waived.


Telfair averaged 35 starts his first 5 seasons.
He was MINNy's starting PG for 2 seasons.

Couldn't shoot straight.
Career 39% FG and didn't have a reliable 3 point shot.

The sad thing is he couldn't even manage to be a reliable long-term backup PG, which he should have had enough skill for.
Some injuries and likely not enough hard work.
8 teams in parts of 10 seasons.
Out of the league at age 27.
But that's what happens when you can't shoot or defend.

What I found frustrating is that he had a good handle and was super-quick.  So he could get almost anywhere he wanted.  But then too often would stop, pause, and let the defense recover.
Didn't make quick passes, was reluctant to shoot, and rarely attacked the rim. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #661 on: September 19, 2018, 01:13:00 PM »

Don't give up on the guy. He may still be "continuing to blossom."
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Brandon Jennings
« Reply #662 on: September 19, 2018, 01:41:13 PM »

Brandon Jennings had the career telfair could have had.
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Re: Brandon Jennings
« Reply #663 on: September 19, 2018, 01:49:36 PM »

Brandon Jennings had the career telfair could have had.

Except Brandon didn't get busted on weapons possession charges.

Lack of ambition, perhaps? 
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Jimmy Butler asks for a trade
« Reply #664 on: September 19, 2018, 01:52:51 PM »

Yesterday none of you wanted him if picks were involved.


Now he has a short list of 3 teams supposedly.


Are you still willing to be patient?
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Re: Jimmy Butler asks for a trade
« Reply #665 on: September 19, 2018, 01:55:12 PM »

Yesterday none of you wanted him if picks were involved.


Now he has a short list of 3 teams supposedly.


Are you still willing to be patient?

FUCK YES. 

By all means, let's trade draft picks for a man on an ending contract. 

DUH. 

PS: He his willing to extend, right.  Well, bully for him.  He's upset with Towns and Wiggins?  By all means, let's bring him on to get pissed off at our young players.  PASS. 
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« Reply #666 on: September 19, 2018, 01:58:00 PM »

An ending contract -- no this is the Melo situation... he can extend and several suitors want him.

I would really think about trading this years #1 for a year of Jimmy Butler if i could get Top 3 protection on the pick.
(or if i could dump salary)

With a healthy motivated Jimmy Butler and his two-way game we should have a decent shot at the 8 seed.


And we would showcase MSG as a destination for a MAX level Free Agent next summer.

KD isn't coming here.

But Irving, Butler, Porzingis is a nice big 3
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #667 on: September 19, 2018, 02:45:06 PM »

Come here, Jimmy, we want ya!
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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #668 on: September 19, 2018, 02:56:05 PM »

Didn't Butler butt heads with everyone in CHI?
Had trouble taking on a leadership role.
Terrific player, but did his head overinflate?

I'd definitely talk to KZ on his opinion of Butler.

If Butler can you get you Kyrie, well then you do what you gotta do.
I'm not a Kyrie fan, but he is an impressive offensive talent.  And we need a PG.

If suddenly you can start: Kyrie - Tim Jr - Butler - Knox - KZ
well, then you have a genuine team.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #669 on: September 19, 2018, 02:58:24 PM »

Avery Bradley plus Wes Johnson or Teodosic make a salary match w the Clips, who can add some picks to that package. Avery’s next year is a team option at under 13 million. I hope it goes that way. I don’t think Brooklyn or Miami have anything that good to offer. I’d prefer that we stay out of it at this point.
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« Reply #670 on: September 19, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »

An ending contract -- no this is the Melo situation... he can extend and several suitors want him.

I would really think about trading this years #1 for a year of Jimmy Butler if i could get Top 3 protection on the pick.
(or if i could dump salary)

With a healthy motivated Jimmy Butler and his two-way game we should have a decent shot at the 8 seed.


And we would showcase MSG as a destination for a MAX level Free Agent next summer.

KD isn't coming here.

But Irving, Butler, Porzingis is a nice big 3

We’re talking with Laydumb here... How ‘bout Noah for Jimmy AND their No. 1 pick?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #671 on: September 19, 2018, 05:12:50 PM »

OK Phil and the triangle brain thrust have left the Garden, time to cut ties with the defensive specialists and just plain bad shooters. Franky and Lance starting? Nobody will mix these two with Mike or Kobe.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #672 on: September 19, 2018, 05:24:14 PM »

Any reason Cuban didn't get suspended?

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1358207002
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #673 on: September 19, 2018, 06:02:42 PM »

CBSports deal:
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Timberwolves receive: Tim Hardaway Jr., Lance Thomas, New York's 2019 first-round pick

Knicks receive: Jimmy Butler

I'm on board.
Ditch Tim and his contract.
Protect the pick Top 3 or whatever.

Investigate Butler's attitude issues.
Run it by KZ.

Butler- KZ - Knox makes the Knix relevant.
Then search for a starting PG.

The other alternative is make this a complete developmental year and worry about getting a star in FA next Summer.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #674 on: September 19, 2018, 06:50:04 PM »


Sigh

More shameless revisionist bullshit. 

Now he "didn't get the opportunity."

He got EVERY OPPORTUNITY. 

Averaged 21.5 minutes in 564 games over ten seasons. 

Everyone on this forum has a functioning memory.  So best of luck in rewriting your well-documented assertions. 



In New York, no - no opportunity for Sebastian.

I dont recall ST having a  questionable attitude - but maybe you can link to some evidence.

I think he had a good enough career.   No shame in being a ten year NBA guy, eh, Shaman?
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